Is Ukraine doomed?

Is Ukraine doomed?

  • Yes, and it's bungling Biden's fault

    Votes: 4 44.4%
  • No, but it's not bungling Biden's fault

    Votes: 1 11.1%
  • Maybe

    Votes: 3 33.3%
  • I don't know, I just want to troll Legion's thread

    Votes: 1 11.1%

  • Total voters
    9
  • Poll closed .
Not Your guy.

You think his plan was to fail on purpose? Keep in mind, Trump orchestrated multiple peace deals between Israel and the Arab states. He also moved the US embassy to Jerusalem without any consequences, despite retards like Kerry saying it could not be done. Brandon doesn't even have a background of any foreign policy successes to draw from.
 
No, but agreeing to stop poking the Russian Bear in the eyes is required.

No not really! What is required is you stop poking Putin and TRUMP in the ass with your dick for their personal pleasure!

Perhaps you may desire letting Putin and Trump fuck you up the ass for your own personal pleasure as a reward for supporting them!

You are simply their whore dude!
 
it will become part or Russia again, where it was for decades. It has zero affect on the USA and its none of our fricken business.

I couldn't have said it better.

"Ukraine" as a "Republic" was a creation of the Soviet Union 100 years ago, and the Soviets merged two culturally-disparate populations into one puppet "Republic" by force.

Oh, and they also starved millions of the newly-minted "Ukrainians" to death a few years later.

After the collapse of the USSR, the US and the Europeans began meddling almost immediately, and have done their damnedest to turn Ukraine (which is deeply corrupt) from an independent nation into a client state and NATO proxy.
 
I couldn't have said it better.

"Ukraine" as a "Republic" was a creation of the Soviet Union 100 years ago, and the Soviets merged two culturally-disparate populations into one puppet "Republic" by force.

Oh, and they also starved millions of the newly-minted "Ukrainians" to death a few years later.

After the collapse of the USSR, the US and the Europeans began meddling almost immediately, and have done their damnedest to turn Ukraine (which is deeply corrupt) from an independent nation into a client state and NATO proxy.

exactly, but don't expect to hear any of that from our corrupt media
 
yes, cannot be bribed or threatened, unlike senile old Joey

I believe there is plenty of incriminating kompromat in Putin's files on the corrupt Biden crime family, and plenty more in Xi's hands.

If that stuff was leaked, it would likely become legal to hunt DEMOCRATS with dogs.
 
I believe there is plenty of incriminating kompromat in Putin's files on the corrupt Biden crime family, and plenty more in Xi's hands.

If that stuff was leaked, it would likely become legal to hunt DEMOCRATS with dogs.

yep, and thats what the libs fear most, that the truth about them and their puppetmasters will come out.
 
yep, and thats what the libs fear most, that the truth about them and their puppetmasters will come out.

It's already "come out", (like Peter "Puffer" Buttigieg did after he was a little kid being molested by an older homosexual and decided he liked it).

Enough is already known to put most DC DEMOCRATS behind bars. Obama's "insurance policies" make sure that no charges get filed, and the tame media "debunks" the facts.

I believe that what the left fears most is that the public will realize that it's true and hold them accountable for evading the truth.

Remember, Nixon's crime wasn't the burglary, it was the cover-up.
 
It's already "come out", (like Peter "Puffer" Buttigieg did after he was a little kid being molested by an older homosexual and decided he liked it).

Enough is already known to put most DC DEMOCRATS behind bars. Obama's "insurance policies" make sure that no charges get filed, and the tame media "debunks" the facts.

I believe that what the left fears most is that the public will realize that it's true and hold them accountable for evading the truth.

Remember, Nixon's crime wasn't the burglary, it was the cover-up.

right on
 
No not really! What is required is you stop poking Putin and TRUMP in the ass with your dick for their personal pleasure!

Perhaps you may desire letting Putin and Trump fuck you up the ass for your own personal pleasure as a reward for supporting them!

You are simply their whore dude!

YUK
 
Russia warns Kyiv as Ukraine's cities shelled

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What did trump do?
He claimed Ukraine interfered in the election, saying not Russia.
He remover the esteemed and well regarded Ukraine ambassador
He froze aid to Ukraine
He stopped a promised Whitehouse visit for Zelensky
He turned Ukraine matters over to Guiliani.
He tried to extort Zelensky into lying about a Biden investigation to help him in the election.
This is how rightys think the government should be run.
 
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Ukraine will continue to exist, they will just have a puppet government installed by Russia and once again become a satellite state owned and controlled by Russia.

That seems most likely. They 'existed' as part of the Soviet Union from 1921-1991, and it will continue to exist as part of the Russian Federation.

Ukraine is more than holding their own, and they are never going to surrender.
 
Ukraine is more than holding their own, and they are never going to surrender.

Indeed. I have been surprised at how fearful they are to send fighters and or bombers over Ukraine. They send them in for very short periods and run quickly back to Russia. Ukraine's anti-air defense has been far more effective due to Russian fear of the Soviet Era S300 anti-air defense donated by Slovakia.

I thought Russia would command control of the air when I made those predictions before, but their hesitance to take control of the air over Ukraine makes it near impossible to protect tank columns, etc. and makes their job nearly impossible. Russia seems to have no real military strategy for a victory in Ukraine.

Our intel is far more effective because of this. Russia lost more fighters in the first week than we lost in the entire 20 years in Afghanistan, for example. Air superiority is so important, that the fact that they seem afraid to even try to obtain this objective astounds me and my friends that remain in military service.

All of this bodes well for Ukraine, and makes Putin's position untenable.

All I can say is, "Glory to Ukraine!" or "Slava Ukraine!"
 
Indeed. I have been surprised at how fearful they are to send fighters and or bombers over Ukraine. They send them in for very short periods and run quickly back to Russia. Ukraine's anti-air defense has been far more effective due to Russian fear of the Soviet Era S300 anti-air defense donated by Slovakia.

I thought Russia would command control of the air when I made those predictions before, but their hesitance to take control of the air over Ukraine makes it near impossible to protect tank columns, etc. and makes their job nearly impossible. Russia seems to have no real military strategy for a victory in Ukraine.

Our intel is far more effective because of this. Russia lost more fighters in the first week than we lost in the entire 20 years in Afghanistan, for example. Air superiority is so important, that the fact that they seem afraid to even try to obtain this objective astounds me and my friends that remain in military service.

All of this bodes well for Ukraine, and makes Putin's position untenable.

All I can say is, "Glory to Ukraine!" or "Slava Ukraine!"

I thought the probability of Putin ordering a full scale invasion was very low, but I didn't think the Russians would have a cakewalk. I thought they were going to face a vigorous and deadly military resistance from the Ukranians, and you can never discount the traditional tenacity of the East Slavs to defend home and hearth against bloodthirsty invaders.
 
Ukraine will continue to exist, they will just have a puppet government installed by Russia and once again become a satellite state owned and controlled by Russia.

I am not blaming Damocles for being so wrong, but he was wrong. He posted this on February 25th, the second day of a war that was predicted to take 3 days. We are now two and a half months into a war that was predicted to last 3 days, and it is clear that it is not going as planned for Putin.

Clearly the Ukrainians are willing to fight, and that includes the Ukrainians who use Russian as their mother tongue. Even in the territories occupied for 8 years, Putin needs terror to keep control.

Biden is willing to supply the weapons that Ukraine needs. More amazing, Germany and other western powers that have historically been more neutral are willing to supply weapons. Biden has swatted away Putin's propaganda in most of the western world. He has done the diplomatic groundwork to keep our allies on our side.

And Ukraine is holding out. Ukraine is not doomed, but it is seriously damaged. Maybe that is all Putin needs. Putin desperately needed Ukraine not to be a western success. If Ukraine could be a liberal democracy with a prosperous efficient economy, then the Russians would start asking why can't they be all that also. That would be the end of Putin.

Maybe by damaging Ukraine with bombs, Putin can set them back... Or maybe not. Japan and Germany came back stronger after WWII's destruction of their economies. Ukrainian refugees are making contacts with the EU, and learning how the EU works. They are entering a crash course in being western. At the end of this war, they may well build back stronger as a western country. Putin may have accelerated the very trend he was trying to avoid.
 
The Ukraine is doomed but it's not Biden's fault, it's their own fault.

If we start blaming people for wanting to be free and prosper in their own country, then yes, it is Ukraines fault for becoming more western, being free, and prospering. This inadvertently put Putin at risk.

But I refuse to accept a world where everyone needs to live in slavery and poverty to make Putin feel better.
 
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