Do you believe the purpose of government is to give us our rights or to protect our unalienable rights?
Now that the several states can make laws re abortion, what exceptions seem necessary
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NiftyNiblick
1960s Chick Magnet
OUR government has not taken responsibility for its citizens medical care.
Every government in the CIVILIZED world has, however.
We need to purge our right wing cretins before we can join the civilized world.
I'll assume you mean our government.
The latter. But the government is generally the one looking to remove them so it seldom works out well.
I agree that its a grand opportunity for the medical business to partner with the family as has been going on for centuries.
Of course. Maybe a handful out of dozens. Do you agree that unless a research hospital or rich guy foots the bill, that nature should be left to take its course?
Indeed.
Medical care is the responsibility of those who need it, not government.
ExpressLane
Verified User
When a guy in the military for 15 years is forced to take the vaccine or to be discharge he no longer has a job to feed his family with. When a fireman is forced to take a shot or be fired and there is no other fire department in his town to work at. So its take the shot or be forced to move sell your home pull your kids out of school and move or starve. That is the government forcing you to take a shot. Idiot.
ExpressLane
Verified User
That isn't what Welfare recipients like Geeko think.
The 10th Amendment to the US Constitution sets out the limits to the powers of the Federal government. It states that any powers that the Constitution does not give to the federal government are the responsibility of the states themselves.
Roe vs. Wade was a decision by the Supreme Court that is the responsibility of the states.
The leak confirmed this.
Get over.
Now all the baby murderers can congregate in California, N.Y. etc.
Roe vs. Wade was a decision by the Supreme Court that is the responsibility of the states.
The leak confirmed this.
Get over.
Now all the baby murderers can congregate in California, N.Y. etc.
NiftyNiblick
1960s Chick Magnet
In total shithole countries, that's the case.
In civilized countries, even "people" like you are afforded healthcare.
None. If life begins at conception, there can be no abortion. Period. Any other position makes you a massive hypocrite.
I dont think that it fails to happen. People are better than that.
thank you for your well reasoned response.
Sorry, dude, but people prove it every day….especially if the baby is African-American or has illegal immigrant parents.
https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/preterm-birth
https://www.marchofdimes.org/mission/prematurity-campaign.aspx
Premature birth (birth before 37 weeks of pregnancy) and its complications are the #1 cause of death of babies in the United States. Babies who survive premature birth often have long-term health problems, including cerebral palsy, intellectual disabilities, chronic lung disease, blindness and hearing loss. In the United States, about 380,000 babies are born prematurely each year. The preterm birth rate (the percent of babies born before 37 weeks each year) is 9.8 percent in the United States. This means 1 in 10 babies is born too soon. The U.S. preterm birth rate is among the worst of high-resource nations.
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ah but extreme premies do not happen every day. and those demographics may be less inclined to fight for their child. but many of these sorts of desperate situations do involve minorities.
Preemies cost money. Republicans are against national healthcare. Results count. You’re old enough and smart enough to realize that is true. Republicans are against both abortion and paying for the cost of babies with medical issues.
While your optimism is notable, the reality is most people don’t give a shit; out of sight, out of mind. Especially the Republican Party’s collective mind. It’s all about the money.
https://www.healthline.com/health/baby/premature-baby-survival-rate
A baby born before 24 weeks has less than a 50 percent chance at survival, say the experts at University of Utah Health.
However, according to this 2016 analysisTrusted Source of more than 8,300 deliveries in the United States, babies born at 24 weeks had a 68 percent chance of survival. A 2016 cohort study of more than 6,000 births found a survival rate of 60 percent. (Utah Health notes a 60 to 70 percent survival rate for this gestational age.)
You seem to insist that the only option is govt pay. That simply isn't the case. Every hospital does pro bono work and always have.Preemies cost money. Republicans are against national healthcare. Results count. You’re old enough and smart enough to realize that is true. Republicans are against both abortion and paying for the cost of babies with medical issues.
While your optimism is notable, the reality is most people don’t give a shit; out of sight, out of mind. Especially the Republican Party’s collective mind. It’s all about the money.
https://www.healthline.com/health/baby/premature-baby-survival-rate
A baby born before 24 weeks has less than a 50 percent chance at survival, say the experts at University of Utah Health.
However, according to this 2016 analysisTrusted Source of more than 8,300 deliveries in the United States, babies born at 24 weeks had a 68 percent chance of survival. A 2016 cohort study of more than 6,000 births found a survival rate of 60 percent. (Utah Health notes a 60 to 70 percent survival rate for this gestational age.)
Fine. Dispute the facts. Out of sight, out of mind. Nothing to see here. Have a nice day.
