It just became an issue, FOR ALMOST EVERYONE!!! Before many people could ignore it, knowing that it would be kept legal by the Supreme Court. Now, every state and federal election becomes about abortion.
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U.S. Supreme Court has voted to strike down Roe vs. Wade
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It just became an issue, FOR ALMOST EVERYONE!!! Before many people could ignore it, knowing that it would be kept legal by the Supreme Court. Now, every state and federal election becomes about abortion.
Dershowitz says this was leaked by a liberal clerk who is hoping to influence the final ruling.
Or maybe a conservative who wants to warn conservatives of the coming tsunami? A liberals gain little by the early release, but the more time conservatives have to prepare for this the better.
The closer to election day you can release bad news for the opposition, the better.
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Joe Biden - "Time to put Trump in the bullseye."
This is going to be a disaster for Republicans. Before Republicans got all the anti-abortion vote, and much of the keep abortion legal vote. They are about to lose almost all the keep abortion legal vote.
HAHAHA You don't even understand the issue here. The court is not going to ban abortion. They are going to leave it to the states and most states will make abortion legal.
Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights, draft opinion shows
"We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft circulated inside the court.
The Supreme Court has voted to strike down the landmark Roe v. Wade decision, according to an initial draft majority opinion written by Justice Samuel Alito circulated inside the court and obtained by POLITICO.
The draft opinion is a full-throated, unflinching repudiation of the 1973 decision which guaranteed federal constitutional protections of abortion rights and a subsequent 1992 decision – Planned Parenthood v. Casey – that largely maintained the right. “Roe was egregiously wrong from the start,” Alito writes.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/02/supreme-court-abortion-draft-opinion-00029473
Like it was a surprise?
Does prove that the Trump appointees plus Alito flat out lied in their confirmation hearings, especially Alito, not that it matters, few, especially since Trump, view the Roberts’ Court as anything but a political court
HAHAHA You don't even understand the issue here. The court is not going to ban abortion. They are going to leave it to the states and most states will make abortion legal.
Till the Federalist Society finds someone to challenge those abortion laws up to the same SCOTUS who will then do the same, probably within a year or two
decision comes by June. it's a tempest in a teapot.What's even funnier, is that the asshole who leaked it almost certainly expected a shit storm of opposition to arise immediately afterward. Instead, it's mostly been a non-issue and ignored. I bet they're freaking out worse about how their radical Leftist views aren't being taken seriously...
If the country wasnt so badly hurting it might effect elections like Trump's mean tweets
Does anyone care about mean tweets anymore?
We are in dire straits . The populace is looking at bread and butter issues, and basics like that
That drives everything else to the bottom of considerations
Text Drivers are Killers
Joe Biden - "Time to put Trump in the bullseye."
And it was not a federal law. Republicans in Congress could not just reverse it. It was a Supreme Court decision based on their interpretation of the Constitution.
HAHAHAHA. You stupid tranny. Show us what the court "interpreted" in 1973 when they legalized abortion.
Fact is there is nothing in the constitution about abortion. The judges must made it all up. There is no constitutional right to abortion. Nor does the constitution say abortion should be banned. The constitution says nothing about the subject and that means, by the 10A, it is up to the states. THINK.
The court is not going to ban abortion.
Correct. It is throwing it to the state level politicians. So if you want to keep abortion legal, you can no longer vote for a Republican. It used to be that you could vote for a Republican, knowing the Supreme Court would keep abortion legal.
Republicans just lost suburban women, and that is huge.
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What's even funnier, is that the asshole who leaked it almost certainly expected a shit storm of opposition to arise immediately afterward. Instead, it's mostly been a non-issue and ignored. I bet they're freaking out worse about how their radical Leftist views aren't being taken seriously...
I'm not sure if the bolded aged too well.
Show us what the court "interpreted" in 1973 when they legalized abortion.
You have a different interpretation of the Constitution than they did.
Fact is there is nothing in the constitution about abortion.
There is a right to make decisions over your own body in the Constitution.
This is kind of like the comment that only the far left really cares about it.
A lot of people who will never get an abortion or even know anyone who does will care about this one. This is an issue of liberty, and of who controls us. Abortion is symbolic for many.
This is a seismic event. It's almost impossible to tell what the effects will be - but even conservatives were dismissing the idea that Roe could ever be overturned even a few months ago. When people read this headline, they'll see a very hard turn right for the country. That will delight some, but I'd be surprised if it didn't give many independents pause on the direction of the country. As a voting population, it's rare that a move far right or left isn't met w/ a strong reaction on election day.
while I think this will generate unhear of interest in state elections, there is nothing Congress can do (other than an amendment which we all know isnt happening).
You have a different interpretation of the Constitution than they did.
There is a right to make decisions over your own body in the Constitution.
only problem is that its not "your body" thats being impacted.
only problem is that its not "your body" thats being impacted.
There is no part of the Constitution that says you must give over your body to another.
We often forget Roe v. Wade is a compromise. It required some earlier abortions to be legal, and some later abortions to be illegal. In a way, I can agree with that.
Think about it for a moment, is a single cell a human being? Of course not, so aborting a single cell should be legal. Is a fetus one second before birth in any real way different than a baby one second after birth? Of course not, so aborting a live fetus should be illegal one second before birth. The rest is debate.
Abortion procedures on a dead fetus should always be legal. That is just common sense. Do whatever you want to a corpse to save the mother.
yes it is debatable and my opinion is that the single cell which can only ever become a human being is as "person" as the collection 1 second before birth.There is no part of the Constitution that says you must give over your body to another.
We often forget Roe v. Wade is a compromise. It required some earlier abortions to be legal, and some later abortions to be illegal. In a way, I can agree with that.
Think about it for a moment, is a single cell a human being? Of course not, so aborting a single cell should be legal. Is a fetus one second before birth in any real way different than a baby one second after birth? Of course not, so aborting a live fetus should be illegal one second before birth. The rest is debate.
Abortion procedures on a dead fetus should always be legal. That is just common sense. Do whatever you want to a corpse to save the mother.
my opinion is that the single cell which can only ever become a human being is as "person"
Most fertilized eggs do not become babies. Should we do more about that? Nature aborts far more pregnancies than does man, so shouldn't we mandate prenatal care? If we are going to take away women's rights over their own body to save fetuses, why stop at abortions, why not mandating government controlled prenatal care?
And what about the unfertilized eggs. They die for want of sperm. We could mandate as many of them as possible get sperm in an attempt to have as many of them survive.
There is a right to make decisions over your own body in the Constitution.
Is there?
About damn time! This is a state issue, not a federal one. There will be plenty of states you can go to to get an abortion regardless. There is no need for a federal law on this.
You can be sure the DEMOCRATS will try to pass one.
Most fertilized eggs do not become babies. Should we do more about that? Nature aborts far more pregnancies than does man, so shouldn't we mandate prenatal care? If we are going to take away women's rights over their own body to save fetuses, why stop at abortions, why not mandating government controlled prenatal care?
And what about the unfertilized eggs. They die for want of sperm. We could mandate as many of them as possible get sperm in an attempt to have as many of them survive.
we've been "doing something about that" for quite some time. By "we" I mean medical science.
the success is only as good as it is. That fertilized ova is not going to stick if it gets fertilized too early or late. No changing that, timing is everything after all.
as to the rest, all that will be done is return jurisdiction back to the states where it belonged. take this up with your state/
This is going to be a disaster for Republicans.
Think so?