SCOTUS opinion leaked: Roe v Wade

The Constitution has everything to do with this. Citizenship is granted at birth. So unless you want to argue that a fetus is an undocumented alien, then personhood is granted at birth as well.

So then I can kill non-citixens? Personhood is now synonymous with citizenship?



The*Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004*(Public Law 108-212) is a*United States*law which recognizes an*embryo*or*fetus*in utero as a legal victim, if they are injured or killed during the commission of any of over 60 listed federal crimes of violence. The law defines "child in utero" as "a member of the species*Homo sapiens, at any stage of development, who is carried in the womb."[1]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unborn_Victims_of_Violence_Act
 
You can't read?

This new single-cell human being immediately produces specifically human proteins and enzymes11 (not carrot or frog enzymes and proteins), and genetically directs his/her own growth and development. (In fact, this genetic growth and development has been proven not to be directed by the mother.)12 Finally, this new human being�the single-cell human zygote�is biologically an individual, a living organism�an individual member of the human species."
Dianne N. Irving, M.A., Ph.D.

I can read. Now prove it's a person.
 
untrue..........maybe you can explain how the court 'found' such a right to privacy in the 9th Amendment.........but reads 'shall not be infringed' as giving the feds the power to 'reasonably regulate'????????

What does the 2nd amendment have to do with this draft ruling?
You are simply throwing shit at the wall because you haven't bothered to read the document.

Alito explains the process of how you can find the right to privacy in the 9th amendment. He also explains that the privacy still exists in any other ruling that used that privacy as the basis such as Lawrence and Griswold and this ruling doesn't affect those rulings in any way.
 
No one is ever going to get anywhere w/ the "when does life begin" argument. Pro-lifers who don't care at all about wars that kill hundreds of thousands will stand fast that a microscopic group of cells is a fully formed human.

They've been determined to take us back to the dark ages for years. And this is just the start - they have their judges now. We'll see more restrictions on freedom just like this.
 

Because a baby is a baby, not a fetus.


I actually don't think women should have children outside of marriage and if they can not financially care for a child they should put it up for adoption.

Why? That makes no sense and only adds more strain to already overwhelmed systems.

There are currently 400,000 kids in foster care in the US right now.

Where are all the people who want to adopt? You don't want gay couples adopting kids, so what the fuck?


Just like a born child still needs to be provided with food, water, and oxygen because there is no biological difference whatsoever

Right, but biologically, how does a child get those nutrients vs. a fetus in the womb?

Unless you still get fed by your mother through an umbilical cord today.

Do you? Are you still attached to your mother that way?
 
So you do support Russia.

Well that makes sense since you also supported the insurrection you were too chickenshit to participate in.
Nope but democrats will sadly shift their focus from Ukraine too abortion. Did you go to Washington to protect the Republic ? Dis you go to Washington to protest Kavenaugh? Or did you just stay on in your mother's basement a furiously pound computer keys. :mott::thing1::clinton::pussyhat:
 
So then I can kill non-citixens? Personhood is now synonymous with citizenship?



The*Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004*(Public Law 108-212) is a*United States*law which recognizes an*embryo*or*fetus*in utero as a legal victim, if they are injured or killed during the commission of any of over 60 listed federal crimes of violence. The law defines "child in utero" as "a member of the species*Homo sapiens, at any stage of development, who is carried in the womb."[1]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unborn_Victims_of_Violence_Act

Hmmm.. So they had to write a specific law to say an embryo and a fetus were legal victims in 2004. Why would they have to do that if the fetus was already a person since it was already illegal under Federal law to kill a human in a law passed in 1948? It seems your own arguments are defeating your claims.
 
Biden’s evolution on abortion

1974 “A woman shouldn’t have the sole right to say what should happen to her body.”

2012 “ Government doesn’t ’ have a right to tell other people that women, they can’t control their body.”

Slow Joe was against abortion before he was for abortion,
 
Nope but democrats will sadly shift their focus from Ukraine too abortion

I think they'll be able to focus on both because they wan walk and chew gum at the same time, while if you were to walk and chew gum, you'd probably trip and fall on your fat ass.
 
Because a baby is a baby, not a fetus.




Why? That makes no sense and only adds more strain to already overwhelmed systems.

There are currently 400,000 kids in foster care in the US right now.

Where are all the people who want to adopt? You don't want gay couples adopting kids, so what the fuck?




Right, but biologically, how does a child get those nutrients vs. a fetus in the womb?

Unless you still get fed by your mother through an umbilical cord today.

Do you? Are you still attached to your mother that way?
At least there aren't 400,000 more dead kids
 
Biden’s evolution on abortion

1974 “A woman shouldn’t have the sole right to say what should happen to her body.”

2012 “ Government doesn’t ’ have a right to tell other people that women, they can’t control their body.”

Slow Joe was against abortion before he was for abortion,

OMG - someone changed over the course of about 40 years!

The horror!

So...you still believe all the same stupid shit you did when you were 12?
 
Biden’s evolution on abortion

1974 “A woman shouldn’t have the sole right to say what should happen to her body.”

2012 “ Government doesn’t ’ have a right to tell other people that women, they can’t control their body.”

Slow Joe was against abortion before he was for abortion,
Yes, just like Obama was against LBGT marriage before he supported it.

Trump paid for an abortion before he was against them.

I guess people change their minds.
 
Biden’s evolution on abortion

1974 “A woman shouldn’t have the sole right to say what should happen to her body.”

2012 “ Government doesn’t ’ have a right to tell other people that women, they can’t control their body.”

Slow Joe was against abortion before he was for abortion,

Oh wow a person changes his mind? Who would have thunk?
 
untrue..........maybe you can explain how the court 'found' such a right to privacy in the 9th Amendment.........but reads 'shall not be infringed' as giving the feds the power to 'reasonably regulate'????????

The Constitution does not prohibit the citizens of each State from regulating or prohibiting abortion.
 
At least there aren't 400,000 more dead kids

No, it's far worse because those kids are suffering without parents.

If they were aborted, they wouldn't have any feelings at all about it.

So you're making 400,000 kids suffer because you have weird hangups about sex.

Also, it's clear you don't give a shit about those kids at all since you seem perfectly OK with them living in the foster care system.

Not your problem, right?

So why is abortion your problem?

If the kids aren't your problem when they're born, then why do you even care about abortion?
 
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