U.S. Supreme Court has voted to strike down Roe vs. Wade

Now it's time for the SC to also overturn Pleyler v doe 1982. That was the infamous case where the court ordered the states to give free k-12 to illegal aliens!!! That has cost american taxpayers trillions of dollars . As in roe v wade, the courts just made it up. Nothing in the constitution says illegals have any rights let alone free schooling.
 
Flash said:
True, but we both know liberals and conservatives want government to do things not in the Constitution. It gives Congress the power to pass naturalization laws but there is no power to control immigration (although almost all of us favor such laws).
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Right about that. Kicking out illegals should be left to the states. Nearly everything is a state issue according to the 10A.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
And everyone is applauding it. It's pretty damn clear that the Left isn't getting a lot of love from the public at the moment.
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Pretty quick read on the pulse of the country w/ the bolded.

This helps Democrats enormously. It's kind of the life preserver they were looking for.

Like I said - we'll see how it plays out. In no way whatsoever do I see a hard right turn like this favoring Republicans in November.
 
BartenderElite said:
Pretty quick read on the pulse of the country w/ the bolded.

This helps Democrats enormously. It's kind of the life preserver they were looking for.

Like I said - we'll see how it plays out. In no way whatsoever do I see a hard right turn like this favoring Republicans in November.
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No, it doesn't. Abortion as an issue doesn't break the top 10. Nobody gives a shit about this other than the radical Left and Right (fringe groups of miniscule size). It won't change anything.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
No, it doesn't. Abortion as an issue doesn't break the top 10. Nobody gives a shit about this other than the radical Left and Right (fringe groups of miniscule size). It won't change anything.
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It will certainly ramp up calls to finish the job of destroying the court by packing it.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
No, it doesn't. Abortion as an issue doesn't break the top 10. Nobody gives a shit about this other than the radical Left and Right (fringe groups of miniscule size). It won't change anything.
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It won't change anything?

That's wishful thinking. This is an earthquake.

The reason it doesn't break the top 10 is the most were complacent about it, and saw it as settled law.
 
Celticguy said:
well unmarried women wont like it but then again they were voting D to begin with.
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This is kind of like the comment that only the far left really cares about it.

A lot of people who will never get an abortion or even know anyone who does will care about this one. This is an issue of liberty, and of who controls us. Abortion is symbolic for many.

This is a seismic event. It's almost impossible to tell what the effects will be - but even conservatives were dismissing the idea that Roe could ever be overturned even a few months ago. When people read this headline, they'll see a very hard turn right for the country. That will delight some, but I'd be surprised if it didn't give many independents pause on the direction of the country. As a voting population, it's rare that a move far right or left isn't met w/ a strong reaction on election day.
 
American Man said:
Then you getting to own a gun is a state issue.
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To a large degree, yes. Unlike abortion, ownership of firearms is specifically spelled out in the Constitution (2nd Amendment). There is no specific right to an abortion spelled out.

So, states can regulate gun ownership subject to the 2nd Amendment and federal law as provided under that amendment.
 
volsrock said:
Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights, draft opinion shows

"We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft circulated inside the court.

The Supreme Court has voted to strike down the landmark Roe v. Wade decision, according to an initial draft majority opinion written by Justice Samuel Alito circulated inside the court and obtained by POLITICO.

The draft opinion is a full-throated, unflinching repudiation of the 1973 decision which guaranteed federal constitutional protections of abortion rights and a subsequent 1992 decision – Planned Parenthood v. Casey – that largely maintained the right. “Roe was egregiously wrong from the start,” Alito writes.


https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/02/supreme-court-abortion-draft-opinion-00029473
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This is going to be a disaster for Republicans. Before Republicans got all the anti-abortion vote, and much of the keep abortion legal vote. They are about to lose almost all the keep abortion legal vote.

Sorry about playing political handicapping at a time like this, but it is an interesting move.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
About damn time!
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The Republicans have kept you stringing along for 50 years on this. Each election, they promised if you vote for us again, this time we will actually do what we promised. Each election, they kept abortion legal just to get all those keep abortion legal votes. Finally, they are going to keep their promise.

T. A. Gardner said:
This is a state issue, not a federal one.
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It was not even a federal political issue, but a constitutional issue. If you wanted to keep abortion legal, you could vote for Republicans in both the federal and state government, and do no harm. Now millions or even over time tens of millions of voters will not be able to vote Republican.

T. A. Gardner said:
There is no need for a federal law on this.
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Obviously, there will need to be a federal law for those Americans not under state authority. DC comes to mind, but there are hundreds of situations where you are under federal authority.

And it was not a federal law. Republicans in Congress could not just reverse it. It was a Supreme Court decision based on their interpretation of the Constitution.
 
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