Joe's missing millions! Financial records reveal Biden had $5.2million in unexplained

AProudLefty said:
Nope. You have no clue about addiction.
Click to expand...
I know if you have the character to avoid starting drugs you won't get addicted to drugs. As a physician that has the ability to prescribe drugs I personally refuse to use any potentially addicting drugs. I had heart surgery 5 years ago and used no narcotic painkillers during my recovery. Hunter is a drug addict because he BROKE THE LAW and used ILLEGAL drugs and started down the road to raging addiction.
 
Phantasmal said:
And there are a lot of non drug addicts who frequent prostitutes, that’s a ridiculous argument.
Click to expand...

Neither group are folks you should admire, why would you? Dudes who pay the women who are pimp-abused sex workers are not someone you would admire if they aren't using drugs but if they are they are someone you could admire if they stopped using drugs?

Addicts are untrustworthy, they steal, lie and hurt people as their addiction is the most important thing in their life. They do things like pass out and forget their kid is having a birthday... and then actually think that it is a good reason not to be there for the kid.

Just quitting the drug is not admirable. It may be difficult, but they are not folks that deserve or should obtain your admiration. Folks that live in the middle of hell and survive without becoming what they've been shown to emulate, those are the folks to admire, not addicts.

As a parent or friend you might be proud, but skeptical, of their decision to quit using and you will find you still will not trust them and you certainly know you don't admire them... they will have lied to you about it several times, and stolen from you, hurt you, hurt folks you love... This is nothing to admire. It never is. Just quitting is not admirable. Some dude who stops taking drugs is not admirable.

Now some dude who stops taking drugs and then helps others get off drugs they are addicted to may become someone I could possibly admire; but some dude who just stopped drugs? Nah. Nor would I think they are particularly intelligent.
 
ExpressLane said:
I know if you have the character to avoid starting drugs you won't get addicted to drugs. As a physician that has the ability to prescribe drugs I personally refuse to use any potentially addicting drugs. I had heart surgery 5 years ago and used no narcotic painkillers during my recovery.
Click to expand...

:rofl2:
 
Damocles said:
Neither group are folks you should admire, why would you? Dudes who pay the women who are pimp-abused sex workers are not someone you would admire if they aren't using drugs but if they are they are someone you could admire if they stopped using drugs?

Addicts are untrustworthy, they steal, lie and hurt people as their addiction is the most important thing in their life. They do things like pass out and forget their kid is having a birthday... and then actually think that it is a good reason not to be there for the kid.

Just quitting the drug is not admirable. It may be difficult, but they are not folks that deserve or should obtain your admiration. Folks that live in the middle of hell and survive without becoming what they've been shown to emulate, those are the folks to admire, not addicts.

As a parent or friend you might be proud, but skeptical, of their decision to quit using and you will find you still will not trust them and you certainly know you don't admire them... they will have lied to you about it several times, and stolen from you, hurt you, hurt folks you love... This is nothing to admire. It never is. Just quitting is not admirable. Some dude who stops taking drugs is not admirable.

Now some dude who stops taking drugs and then helps others get off drugs they are addicted to may become someone I could possibly admire; but some dude who just stopped drugs? Nah. Nor would I think they are particularly intelligent.
Click to expand...
Your opinions, I know many people, alcoholics including, because it is a drug, who have turned their lives around and I will continue to admire them because it is something they fight everyday of their lives to stay clean and to me that is admirable.
 
christiefan915 said:
The article is heavy on supposition and light on proof. Also, the article says Hunt's dad will cover these bills in the short-term as Hunter transitions in his career." It doesn't mean Hunt's dad got the money to cover the bills through nefarious dealings. He could have taken out loans, mortgaged property, borrowed from friends, anything. Biden may have had power of attorney to handle Hunt's finances while he was addicted or going through rehab. The article states that Biden said 'No one in my family will have an office in the White House, will sit in on meetings as if they are a cabinet member, will, in fact, have any business relationship with anyone that relates to a foreign corporation or a foreign country.' He said this after Hunter resigned from BHR Partners. Also, Biden was a private citizen in 2019 and what he did with his money was nobody's business. If the OGE has a problem with Biden's tax return, it would be a civil, not criminal matter.
Click to expand...

Think so?
 
Damocles said:
It is not, however, evidence of intelligent choices. "Admirable" is not what I call cleaning yourself up. Keeping yourself clean after, maybe...

Your choices brought you there, we should not admire that necessity. While it is better than just continuing down that sewer, it is not "admirable" that you were there, nor is it ever evidence of how you are the "smartest" man that the pResident can remember at that moment. Well, maybe it is evidence of what this pResident can remember, but not for most.
Click to expand...
Some of the most intelligent individuals in the world suffered substance abuse.

Decades ago, it was alcohol.

Everyone needs a vice after a long day. For trump, who is arguably one of the dumbest people in the world, it was theft.
 
Damocles said:
It is not, however, evidence of intelligent choices. "Admirable" is not what I call cleaning yourself up. Keeping yourself clean after, maybe...

Your choices brought you there, we should not admire that necessity. While it is better than just continuing down that sewer, it is not "admirable" that you were there, nor is it ever evidence of how you are the "smartest" man that the pResident can remember at that moment. Well, maybe it is evidence of what this pResident can remember, but not for most.
Click to expand...
nobody cares if you admire clean addicts or not
Nobody wants your credit or your condemnation. People just dont want to be stigmatized after they get clean.
When you start looking at addiction as a medical issue then maybe you'll get a clue
When you start to learn "harm reduction" then maybe you'll understand what society can do to minimize the damage to the individual and society as well

But feel free to issue your judgements on other's worth
just remember let those without sin cast the first stone
 
Althea said:
Some of the most intelligent individuals in the world suffered substance abuse.

Decades ago, it was alcohol.

Everyone needs a vice after a long day. For trump, who is arguably one of the dumbest people in the world, it was theft.
Click to expand...

This conflates IQ with intelligence. The two are not mutual.

Intelligence, as I describe it, is measured by the intelligent choices one makes rather than simply whether or not they could do a complex math problem. Though I seriously doubt that Hunter makes intelligent choices in either venture.

Now what I describe here is the value of saying that someone is "the smartest man I know" when they would literally videotape themselves breaking the law, then turn the laptops with the videos on them over to someone else, then simply forget the laptops and not pay for them making someone else the owner of the laptops. That is not "smart" by any measure that I know of in this world today and especially unintelligent in a world where their father is running for President.
 
dukkha said:
nobody cares if you admire clean addicts or not
Nobody wants your credit or your condemnation. People just dont want to be stigmatized after they get clean.
When you start looking at addiction as a medical issue then maybe you'll get a clue
When you start to learn "harm reduction" then maybe you'll understand what society can do to minimize the damage to the individual and society as well

But feel free to issue your judgements on other's worth
just remember let those without sin cast the first stone
Click to expand...

Simply stating I do not "admire" someone for this does not mean I vilify them. I simply would not hold them up as an example of something to admire. Those two things are not the same.

Your assumptions are stupid and of no value at all.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top