we are at war with Russia

[gemini104104]

O damn, gemini post. :scroll:

Could you ever just not totally shitpost?

Consider these details you proper ignoramus and a putrid creature. This in terms of the enemy from within and its war against America, Democracy and anything else of a civilized nature on Earth:

One year later: The GOP is Still at War against Democracy. Needed: A New Center-right Party

In 2020, HBO telecast a series entitled “The Plot Against America,” based upon an alternative mythical history of the United States in the late 1930s and early 1940s, written by Phillip Roth. In the series, supporters of fascism, antisemitism, and Nazism combined to foment a movement that captured the Republican Party and propelled Charles Lindbergh to victory over FDR in the Presidential election of 1940.

As a historian, I knew that Roth’s alternative history was lacking severely in credibility. Lindbergh never attained anywhere near the popularity within the GOP necessary to capture the presidential nomination. The person who did win the 1940 GOP nomination, Wendell Willkie was one of my great heroes of American history.

Yet what terrified me was that the plot of that series has been playing out in real time in 21st century America under the fascist leadership of Donald Trump, a non-genocidal fascist, but a fascist all the same, a Mussolini, rather than a Hitler. If Donald Trump is elected president again in 2024, it may be the last free presidential election in the history of the United States of America.

Today is one year after the Insurrection in the nation’s capitol where we saw Trump and his fellow authoritarian lowlife thugs display their fascism at its ugliest: an attempt to prevent, by force and intimidation, the certification of the election of Joe Biden as president and Kamala Harris as vice president. America owes a great debt of gratitude to former Vice President Mike Pence, who in the face of a Trump-inspired violent mob threatening his life, courageously proceeded to certify the election.

In order to understand the fascism of Trump, it is first necessary to understand what fascism is. One can glean a thorough knowledge of the rudiments of fascism by reading the monumental work, How Fascism Works, by Yale professor Jason Stanley."

https://www.insidernj.com/one-year-later-gop-still-war-against-democracy/

 

[Bigdog]

You want to go to war against Russia (as do US officials) for .. what was it?? European democracy?
You do realize that is straight out of the neocon playbook "spread democracy at the barrel of a gun"

At least you are honest about it, congrats on becoming a full fledged warmonger.

Remember earlier in the war when the talk was an "off ramp" for Putin? We dont want an "off ramp" do we?

we want to war with Russia and escalate Ukraine with high tech NATO weapons to degrade Russia military.
We keep juicing it. training and sending our best weapons
This is the USA leading a long term proxy war against Russia.
US officials are out front - not even denying it
At least the cards are on the table..

is there any reason Russia shouldn't use a low yield nuke now that we are threatening their military?

When NK threatened to use nukes, President Trump boldly threatened to nuke the shit out of them if they did. It worked. And the Cracka Libs had an emotional meltdown.

Biden's idea to announce he wants to use force to degrade Russia's military is moronic. Is he going to bomb Russian factories? Biden degraded the fuck out of our own military by taking $85 billion worth of their state of the art equipment and giving it to the Taliban. Biden hasn't even come close to giving that amount of aid to Ukraine.

The Budapest memorandum set Ukraine up as a demilitarized zone. Leaving it ripe, and defenseless, for a future invasion.

This 'we're afraid to escalate' Biden line is a bunch of crap. Once Pootie invaded, that nonsense should have been off the table. And we all know, if Trump were still prez, this would never have happened. The blood of the Ukrainian people is on the hands of all Biden voters and supporters.

And Pootie's outrage over NATO expansion is a manufactured excuse.

 

[moon]

I want America to help Europe defend the principles of democracy.

If there were medals for hypocrisy you'd need a scaffold for support.
Ukraine's democracy was overturned by the US in 2014, dumbass.

 

[Matt Dillon]

If there were medals for hypocrisy you'd need a scaffold for support.
Ukraine's democracy was overturned by the US in 2014, dumbass.

That's true. The sooner one learns about about all the failed "regime change" policies and happenings, the better off and well-informed they will be.

Was Iran the first one? 1953 Iran?

 

[Matt Dillon]

O damn, gemini post. :scroll:

Could you ever just not totally shitpost?

Consider these details you proper ignoramus and a putrid creature. This in terms of the enemy from within and its war against America, Democracy and anything else of a civilized nature on Earth:

One year later: The GOP is Still at War against Democracy. Needed: A New Center-right Party

In 2020, HBO telecast a series entitled “The Plot Against America,” based upon an alternative mythical history of the United States in the late 1930s and early 1940s, written by Phillip Roth. In the series, supporters of fascism, antisemitism, and Nazism combined to foment a movement that captured the Republican Party and propelled Charles Lindbergh to victory over FDR in the Presidential election of 1940.

As a historian, I knew that Roth’s alternative history was lacking severely in credibility. Lindbergh never attained anywhere near the popularity within the GOP necessary to capture the presidential nomination. The person who did win the 1940 GOP nomination, Wendell Willkie was one of my great heroes of American history.

Yet what terrified me was that the plot of that series has been playing out in real time in 21st century America under the fascist leadership of Donald Trump, a non-genocidal fascist, but a fascist all the same, a Mussolini, rather than a Hitler. If Donald Trump is elected president again in 2024, it may be the last free presidential election in the history of the United States of America.

Today is one year after the Insurrection in the nation’s capitol where we saw Trump and his fellow authoritarian lowlife thugs display their fascism at its ugliest: an attempt to prevent, by force and intimidation, the certification of the election of Joe Biden as president and Kamala Harris as vice president. America owes a great debt of gratitude to former Vice President Mike Pence, who in the face of a Trump-inspired violent mob threatening his life, courageously proceeded to certify the election.

In order to understand the fascism of Trump, it is first necessary to understand what fascism is. One can glean a thorough knowledge of the rudiments of fascism by reading the monumental work, How Fascism Works, by Yale professor Jason Stanley."

https://www.insidernj.com/one-year-later-gop-still-war-against-democracy/

I'll take that as a "no". (with your TL; DR pile of runny dog diarrhea response)

 

[PostmodernProphet]

We haven't been involved in a just war in decades, this is it.

You wanted to stay in Afghanistan.

I want America to help Europe defend the principles of democracy.

why is defending Ukraine from Russia more moral than defending Kuwait from Iraq........more moral than defending Afghanis from the Taliban.......going back, more moral than defending South Korea from the Communist backed revolutionaries in North Korea?........more moral than every other military action we've ever been involved in?......are free Ukrainians more important than free Panamanians?......

 

[Monad Portal]

Austin finally came out and said this war is no longer about defending Ukraine. It's about "weakening Russia"-going after Russian forces with the purpose of degrading their military

We view and treat this confrontation as a chance to take on Russia.
we train them arm them and it's NOT about simply helping Uk defend itself
Full scale proxy war with no set limitations can easily lead to tactical nukes
Russia has them and is now warning they might use them since NATO is going all in on "weakening" Russia

russians know the real truth of bolshevism. they will not allow the the cultural demoralization the great resetters insist upon. i mean ...upon which the great resetters insist.

yes. grooming in schools.

 

[Monad Portal]

why is defending Ukraine from Russia more moral than defending Kuwait from Iraq........more moral than defending Afghanis from the Taliban.......going back, more moral than defending South Korea from the Communist backed revolutionaries in North Korea?........more moral than every other military action we've ever been involved in?......are free Ukrainians more important than free Panamanians?......

cuz faucis biolabs are at stake.

 

[Althea]

We haven't been involved in a just war in decades, this is it.

You wanted to stay in Afghanistan.

I want America to help Europe defend the principles of democracy.

This is what opiates can do to your brain

Remember early in the war when the talk was an "off ramp" for Putin? We dont want an off ramp.
we want to punish Russia and escalate Ukraine to a permanent threat to same
We are loving this proxy war, and we keep juicing it

Thousands of innocents have been murdered since 'early in the war'. Putin has committed war crimes. There is no off ramp for Putin that isn't a bullet to his head.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said Monday in Kyiv that
Washington wants to see Russian forces “weakened to the degree that it can’t do the kinds of things that it has done in invading Ukraine.”
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-real-nuclear-war-risk-as-ukraine-talks-go-on

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov warned there’s a “serious” risk of nuclear war over Ukraine in a statement the U.S. blasted as the “height of irresponsibility.”

“The danger is serious, real. It can’t be underestimated,” Lavrov said in a state TV interview broadcast late Monday. Invoking the Cuban missile crisis of 1962, when the U.S. and the Soviet Union came close to nuclear war, he said that Moscow and Washington had understood the rules of conduct between the superpowers but “now there are few rules left.”

Russia will continue negotiations with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy’s representatives to try to reach a peace agreement, Lavrov said.
It would be “useful” to hold discussions with the U.S. too, “but we don’t observe any interest on their part regarding contacts on Ukraine or on other issues.” Both sides have said the talks are at a dead end.

The Russian foreign minister’s comments were downplayed by U.K. Prime Minister Boris Johnson, who told TalkTV that Moscow wants “to present this as a confrontation between Russia and the West and Russia and NATO. That is emphatically not what is going on.”


Lavrov’s comment came after U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said Monday in Kyiv that
The U.S. announced additional military aid for Ukraine as the war enters its 62nd day with Russian and Ukrainian armies facing off in the eastern Donbas region, where Moscow has regrouped its forces after failing to take Kyiv early in the invasion.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-real-nuclear-war-risk-as-ukraine-talks-go-on

Since the Russian people have become too pussified to free themselves, it's up to US. LOL

 

[Althea]

Unless there are American Howitzer crews (and guns) in Ukraine, or on the Europe side of Ukraine's border actively raining high explosives down like Thor's hammer on Putin's Army, along with mortar fire and airstrikes, The US is not at war with Russia.

The Russia/Ukraine problem has to be settled between them. I think Putin has seriously fucked up his legacy. Yeah, he "liberated" millions of Ukrainians right out of their homes, jobs, food, and water.

Innocent civilians, too. what a fucking penis wrinkle.

Every time his propaganda ministry releases new 'information', I hear it being read with trump's voice.

They are one and the same.

The difference being only 30% of this nation believes trump.

Most of Russia believes Putin, but they love trump.

 

[Althea]

Yeah, because us, the original OGs of the nuclear bomb could take out everything he likes. His house, his boat, his hideaway cabin, I mean, wtf? The motherfucker is killing and his soldiers are raping innocent civilians for nothing.

How does he even sleep at night knowing the damage he's doing to innocent people and he'll get nothing in return? There no monetary profit in what he's doing, except for the western bankers if a war kicks off.

So some high tech weapons make it to Ukranians, really they are just farmers. Why is Putin fucking with their sovereignty so?

If you don't think America's Army could kick the fuck out of the Russian Army, you're sadly mistaken. Let's hope him and Zelensky come to an agreement before that has to happen, k?

Obama has not weakened our military that much yet, motherfuckers. Maybe not the Marines, but the rest of the Armed Forces of America have superior tactics and equipment. Tier 1 Marine operators are OK.

And Americans know how to shoot better than any other country on this planet. AND have better guns.

The only thing Putin gets out of this is the glaring evidence of Russia's incompetence, and inferior weaponry. For all his saber rattling over the years, he is now exposed as impotent.

Not unlike when Stormy described trump's flaccid wrinkled penis.

 

[Althea]

Let the world burn then.

I'd love to shoot motherfuckers right in the head that bomb innocent people in their homes like the Russian army is doing to Ukraine.

Fuck them, and if China wants to back them up, fuck them too.

Their problem is that they do not understand how the core populace of America is wired. We're not gonna put up with your shit, fuck you.

If Trump was president, this thread wouldn't even have been started because Putin would not have been emboldened by the ineptitude of the "Weekend at Bernie's" guy that Democrats cheated in as the president "they want".

I firmly believe that, and here comes WW3 with Bernie as head of the US. Lord help us all.

Back in the day, I loaded up several entire ships full of frozen food for Russia.

They were rust-colored. No paint, that was actual rust. They never chipped rust off their ships and painted them, they just let them go. 2" flakes of rust on the things, I shit you not.

Here we go with mass starvation and everything, all in the name of "climate change".

LMFAO. trump would be sending Putin arms.

 

[Althea]

When NK threatened to use nukes, President Trump boldly threatened to nuke the shit out of them if they did. It worked. And the Cracka Libs had an emotional meltdown.

Biden's idea to announce he wants to use force to degrade Russia's military is moronic. Is he going to bomb Russian factories? Biden degraded the fuck out of our own military by taking $85 billion worth of their state of the art equipment and giving it to the Taliban. Biden hasn't even come close to giving that amount of aid to Ukraine.

The Budapest memorandum set Ukraine up as a demilitarized zone. Leaving it ripe, and defenseless, for a future invasion.

This 'we're afraid to escalate' Biden line is a bunch of crap. Once Pootie invaded, that nonsense should have been off the table. And we all know, if Trump were still prez, this would never have happened. The blood of the Ukrainian people is on the hands of all Biden voters and supporters.

And Pootie's outrage over NATO expansion is a manufactured excuse.

LMFAO.

I see you have long Covid.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

LMFAO.

I see you have long Covid.

Naw, he was born that way.

 

[dukkha]

Putin has committed war crimes. There is no off ramp for Putin that isn't a bullet to his head.

this is what passes for foreign policy from the warmongers. Kill Putin **drr drr* never mind it's fantasy it's assassination and it's war with Russia
..but it feelz good

sadly this is the (non)level of thought by freaks like Austin, Price, Nuland, Rice - and the idiot who posts such

It makes my point "we are at war with Russia"

 

[dukkha]

why is defending Ukraine from Russia more moral than defending Kuwait from Iraq........more moral than defending Afghanis from the Taliban.......going back, more moral than defending South Korea from the Communist backed revolutionaries in North Korea?........more moral than every other military action we've ever been involved in?......are free Ukrainians more important than free Panamanians?......

morality is a silly metric. This is war. You go to war because you have to, not for some crusade
Except that is exactly what we are doing with Russia..it's a jihad for Biden Inc

 

[Cypress]

You want to go to war against Russia (as do US officials) for .. what was it?? European democracy?
You do realize that is straight out of the neocon playbook "spread democracy at the barrel of a gun"

At least you are honest about it, congrats on becoming a full fledged warmonger.

Remember earlier in the war when the talk was an "off ramp" for Putin? We dont want an "off ramp" do we?

we want to war with Russia and escalate Ukraine with high tech NATO weapons to degrade Russia military.
We keep juicing it. training and sending our best weapons
This is the USA leading a long term proxy war against Russia.
US officials are out front - not even denying it
At least the cards are on the table..

is there any reason Russia shouldn't use a low yield nuke now that we are threatening their military?

Zelensky has repeatedly offered to meet Putin face to face for peace negotiations, and Vlad has rebuffed him at every turn.

Putin has been humiliated, first by decisively losing the Battle of Kyiv, then by having his Black Sea flagship the Moskva sunk.

Putin is not going to negotiate from a position of humiliation and weakness. Right now, he is just trying to grab as much land as possible.

Your hero Vlad started this war.
It is directly within the power of your war criminal hero to end it.

 

[dukkha]

If there were medals for hypocrisy you'd need a scaffold for support.
Ukraine's democracy was overturned by the US in 2014, dumbass.

yep we arent even going to war for "democracy" it's some pseudo-western style government with systemic corruption.
Opposition are thrown in jail and indicted and opposition media are shut down by Zelensky

so why are we are we warring agaisnt Russia?? - certainly not for "democracy"

 

[dukkha]

Zelensky has repeatedly offered to meet Putin face to face for peace negotiations, and Vlad has rebuffed him at every turn.

Putin has been humiliated, first by decisively losing the Battle of Kyiv, then by having his Black Sea flagship the Moskva sunk.

Putin is not going to negotiate from a position of humiliation and weakness. Right now, he is just trying to grab as much land as possible.

Your hero Vlad started this war.
It is directly within the power of your war criminal hero to end it.

your rant is silly
we are at war with Russia because Zelensky says so?
Since when does Zelensky determine our wars?

Of curse Putin is trying to grab land. Zelensky is trying to grab the NATO ring
why does that make us need to "degrade Russian military"

You might be fine going to war wth Putin over NATO expansion and Putin land grab
But US war policy is to defend the USA.. we are not here to fight Russia directly over Ukraine
Except you are