General Motors expands in China

[uscitizen]

Creating jobs overseas isn't the same as sending jobs overseas. That's absurd.

No it is worse!

Just wait till your GM dealers lot is full or Maomobiles with grey quilted interiors.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

No it is worse!

Just wait till your GM dealers lot is full or Maomobiles with grey quilted interiors.

It's worse?

You mean it's worse for our economy for China to have more jobs than for China to have more jobs and us less?

Makes perfect sense.

 

[Damocles]

How were these jobs sent overseas? Hopefully with the extra money from this deal GM can become profitable again so that our factories stay open.

LOL. If factories in China are profitable, but factories here are not what would a sane company do?

 

[uscitizen]

Haha... not on this board the gentleman hasn't.

did too.

I questioned and was firmly against the bank bailout, the GM bailout, his delayed pullout from Iraq, and a few more issues.

How the heck would you know? You had me on ignore, but you seem to know what I said?

Still talking out your ass.
You are pwned
You could not know what I said while I was on ignore. And all my posts did not get quoted.

 

[uscitizen]

LOL. If factories in China are profitable, but factories here are not what would a sane company do?

Abandon America.
So why should we support them by buying their products?

 

[Damocles]

Abandon America.
So why should we support them by buying their products?

Who said we should?

 

[Whomever]

Who said we should?

Not me.
And why should we bail them out or give them tax breaks?

 

[Damocles]

Not me.
And why should we bail them out or give them tax breaks?

Again. Other than Bush and Obama (note how they agree on the worst crap), who said we should?

 

[Whomever]

Again. Other than Bush and Obama (note how they agree on the worst crap), who said we should?

Mitch McConnel? And many other Republicans. Dems too

Just curious, but how has the blimp man ron weighed in on the bailouts and such?

 

[Damocles]

Mitch McConnel? And many other Republicans. Dems too

Just curious, but how has the blimp man ron weighed in on the bailouts and such?

http://www.ronpaul.com/2008-09-24/ron-paul-on-the-bailout-proposal/

Message from Ron Paul to the Nation:

Dear Friends,

Whenever a Great Bipartisan Consensus is announced, and a compliant media assures everyone that the wondrous actions of our wise leaders are being taken for our own good, you can know with absolute certainty that disaster is about to strike.

The events of the past week are no exception.

The bailout package that is about to be rammed down Congress’ throat is not just economically foolish. It is downright sinister. It makes a mockery of our Constitution, which our leaders should never again bother pretending is still in effect. It promises the American people a never-ending nightmare of ever-greater debt liabilities they will have to shoulder. Two weeks ago, financial analyst Jim Rogers said the bailout of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac made America more communist than China! “This is welfare for the rich,” he said. “This is socialism for the rich. It’s bailing out the financiers, the banks, the Wall Streeters.”

That describes the current bailout package to a T. And we’re being told it’s unavoidable.

The claim that the market caused all this is so staggeringly foolish that only politicians and the media could pretend to believe it. But that has become the conventional wisdom, with the desired result that those responsible for the credit bubble and its predictable consequences – predictable, that is, to those who understand sound, Austrian economics – are being let off the hook. The Federal Reserve System is actually positioning itself as the savior, rather than the culprit, in this mess!

More at link.

 

[Whomever]

So I assume he voted against all of the bailouts?

Good for him he is a man that mostly sticks with his principles. Unusual in a politician and commendable. If he was not one of those wacko libertarians I would vote for him...But I do not live in Texas.

During the bush presidency he did vote around 70+% with the rest of the republicans though.

 

[Damocles]

So I assume he voted against all of the bailouts?

Good for him he is a man that mostly sticks with his principles. Unusual in a politician and commendable. If he was not one of those wacko libertarians I would vote for him...But I do not live in Texas.

During the bush presidency he did vote around 70+% with the rest of the republicans though.

So did a large group of Democrats. Most votes are procedural votes.

 

[Whomever]

So did a large group of Democrats. Most votes are procedural votes.

A large group of the democrats suck though.



I understand what you are saying, but I still think he voted on non procedural items with the Republicans more than not with them during the Bush years.

 

[Damocles]

A large group of the democrats suck though.



I understand what you are saying, but I still think he voted on non procedural items with the Republicans more than not with them during the Bush years.

Okay. He is a Republican. It should be a stunning shocker that a republican voted for republican things... He did not, however, vote for fiscally irresponsible BS, voted against unconstitutional war, and didn't generally please Bush. I would bet that of people Bush would invite to the WH he, along with Tancredo, received the message, "Do not darken the WH door, you aren't welcome here."

 

[Whomever]

Okay. He is a Republican. It should be a stunning shocker that a republican voted for republican things... He did not, however, vote for fiscally irresponsible BS, voted against unconstitutional war, and didn't generally please Bush. I would bet that of people Bush would invite to the WH he, along with Tancredo, received the message, "Do not darken the WH door, you aren't welcome here."

As I said he is a man of his principles most of the time. And to be commended for that.

A lot like Ted Kennedy in that respect.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

I see the ignorant are having a good time dreaming up ways to destroy America with their unfathomable stupidity here. No need for me to interrupt the circle jerk.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

http://www.ronpaul.com/2008-09-24/ron-paul-on-the-bailout-proposal/

Message from Ron Paul to the Nation:

Dear Friends,

Whenever a Great Bipartisan Consensus is announced, and a compliant media assures everyone that the wondrous actions of our wise leaders are being taken for our own good, you can know with absolute certainty that disaster is about to strike.

The events of the past week are no exception.

The bailout package that is about to be rammed down Congress’ throat is not just economically foolish. It is downright sinister. It makes a mockery of our Constitution, which our leaders should never again bother pretending is still in effect. It promises the American people a never-ending nightmare of ever-greater debt liabilities they will have to shoulder. Two weeks ago, financial analyst Jim Rogers said the bailout of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac made America more communist than China! “This is welfare for the rich,” he said. “This is socialism for the rich. It’s bailing out the financiers, the banks, the Wall Streeters.”

That describes the current bailout package to a T. And we’re being told it’s unavoidable.

The claim that the market caused all this is so staggeringly foolish that only politicians and the media could pretend to believe it. But that has become the conventional wisdom, with the desired result that those responsible for the credit bubble and its predictable consequences – predictable, that is, to those who understand sound, Austrian economics – are being let off the hook. The Federal Reserve System is actually positioning itself as the savior, rather than the culprit, in this mess!

More at link.

Austrian economics isn't economics. It's pseudoscience. Ron Paul needs to be hung with the rest of the conservative traitors.

 

[uscitizen]

Austrian economics isn't economics. It's pseudoscience. Ron Paul needs to be hung with the rest of the conservative traitors.

I did not say RP was correct, just that he stuck with his principles pretty much. Wrong though they may be.
That is why I said he was a principled libertarian wacko.

 

[Topspin]

they buy more cars than we do, what is GM supposed to ignore that?

 

[Based Chad]

How were these jobs sent overseas? Hopefully with the extra money from this deal GM can become profitable again so that our factories stay open.

How were they not?