Special Counsel Durham has revealed a relentless effort by Democrats to sell the Russia collusion narrative across the US government, to the point where in the absence of derogatory information they created it. The Democrats then enlisted (to date…) Christopher Steele and Michael Sussman to peddle the false information in hopes of stirring someone in the intelligence community to turn their vast resources on Trump and find actual dirt.
relentless effort by Democrats to sell Russia collusion narrative across US gov't.
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At January and February 2017 CIA meetings, Sussman claimed the phone first “appeared” in April 2016 (about the time the DNC hack supposedly took place) and even “appeared with Trump in Michigan” when he was interviewing a future cabinet secretary. Sussman went on to disingenuously claim to the CIA that the Yota smartphone used is often gifted to Russian officials.
The problem was that the information Sussman passed to the FBI was fake. Phony. Fabricated. Much like the Dossier. The CIA “concluded in early 2017 Russian Bank-1 data [Alfa] and Russian Phone Provider-1 [Yota] data was not ‘technically plausible,’ did not ‘withstand technical scrutiny,’ ‘contained gaps,’ ‘conflicted with [itself]’ and was ‘user created and not machine/tool generated.’”
Reuters‘s own tech people also said they could not authenticate the data and passed on the story.
While CIA declined to open an investigation based on such data, the FBI did, leaving open additional questions on whether or not the FBI was technically unschooled, or in on the greater conspiracy.
This new information also raises the question of why Robert Mueller or DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz did not ask why the FBI was so easily fooled when their CIA cousins across the river (and some journalists) saw through the grift. The FBI were warned — on September 7, 2016 the CIA sent FBI director James Comey and Peter Strzok a warning that Hillary Clinton approved a plan to tie Trump to Russia to distract from her email scandal.
Then, only twelve days later, Sussman approached the FBI, who, despite the heads-up, took the hook. Hillary Clinton tweeted, “Computer scientists have apparently uncovered a covert server linking the Trump Organization to a Russian-based bank.”
This should also raise questions about Michael Sussman and his role representing the Democratic National Committee and the DNC server hack. Careful research by retired NSA persons suggests the server was accessed from inside the US, not hacked from Russia as widely alleged. One hates to go down the conspiracy road, but is Julian Assange, whose Wikileaks released some of the DNC emails, imprisoned in part because he could prove his source for the hacked emails was not Russian, as he has claimed?
Who knows, right? Maybe Researcher-2 (identified elsewhere as David Dagon of Georgia Tech, whose research focus is Botnets. Dagon previously bragged of using a “bag of tricks” to prove Trump-Russia collusion). Durham granted Researcher-2 immunity to “uncover otherwise-unavailable facts underlying the opposition research project.”
Durham also granted immunity to someone at Fusion GPS, the front organization which moved money from the DNC/Clinton campaign to both Dossier author Christopher Steele and Alfa/Yota pitchman Michael Sussman. The Fusion person is likely Laura Seago. Seago helped sell the fake Alfa data to Slate.
Earlier articles established that the Alfa/Yota conspiracy mirrored the Dossier conspiracy in style, funding and execution. This new information from Durham adds now, as with the Dossier, that the Alfa/Yota data was fake. The commonalities between the two as-yet-legally-unlinked conspiracies strongly suggest a common backstage element.
I spoke with a former US intelligence officer about what would be involved in managing an operation this size: Alfa, Yota, Dossier, liaison with the FBI, all the media planted bells and whistles, but just the admin side, not the actual spy work. She said it would be a very large job, likely bigger than many overseas stations would take on, something that would need its own working group in Washington. She said keeping the finances clean but covert alone would be a near full-time job.
https://spectatorworld.com/topic/walls-close-in-russiagate-perpetrators-durham/
The problem was that the information Sussman passed to the FBI was fake. Phony. Fabricated. Much like the Dossier. The CIA “concluded in early 2017 Russian Bank-1 data [Alfa] and Russian Phone Provider-1 [Yota] data was not ‘technically plausible,’ did not ‘withstand technical scrutiny,’ ‘contained gaps,’ ‘conflicted with [itself]’ and was ‘user created and not machine/tool generated.’”
Reuters‘s own tech people also said they could not authenticate the data and passed on the story.
While CIA declined to open an investigation based on such data, the FBI did, leaving open additional questions on whether or not the FBI was technically unschooled, or in on the greater conspiracy.
This new information also raises the question of why Robert Mueller or DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz did not ask why the FBI was so easily fooled when their CIA cousins across the river (and some journalists) saw through the grift. The FBI were warned — on September 7, 2016 the CIA sent FBI director James Comey and Peter Strzok a warning that Hillary Clinton approved a plan to tie Trump to Russia to distract from her email scandal.
Then, only twelve days later, Sussman approached the FBI, who, despite the heads-up, took the hook. Hillary Clinton tweeted, “Computer scientists have apparently uncovered a covert server linking the Trump Organization to a Russian-based bank.”
This should also raise questions about Michael Sussman and his role representing the Democratic National Committee and the DNC server hack. Careful research by retired NSA persons suggests the server was accessed from inside the US, not hacked from Russia as widely alleged. One hates to go down the conspiracy road, but is Julian Assange, whose Wikileaks released some of the DNC emails, imprisoned in part because he could prove his source for the hacked emails was not Russian, as he has claimed?
Who knows, right? Maybe Researcher-2 (identified elsewhere as David Dagon of Georgia Tech, whose research focus is Botnets. Dagon previously bragged of using a “bag of tricks” to prove Trump-Russia collusion). Durham granted Researcher-2 immunity to “uncover otherwise-unavailable facts underlying the opposition research project.”
Durham also granted immunity to someone at Fusion GPS, the front organization which moved money from the DNC/Clinton campaign to both Dossier author Christopher Steele and Alfa/Yota pitchman Michael Sussman. The Fusion person is likely Laura Seago. Seago helped sell the fake Alfa data to Slate.
Earlier articles established that the Alfa/Yota conspiracy mirrored the Dossier conspiracy in style, funding and execution. This new information from Durham adds now, as with the Dossier, that the Alfa/Yota data was fake. The commonalities between the two as-yet-legally-unlinked conspiracies strongly suggest a common backstage element.
I spoke with a former US intelligence officer about what would be involved in managing an operation this size: Alfa, Yota, Dossier, liaison with the FBI, all the media planted bells and whistles, but just the admin side, not the actual spy work. She said it would be a very large job, likely bigger than many overseas stations would take on, something that would need its own working group in Washington. She said keeping the finances clean but covert alone would be a near full-time job.
https://spectatorworld.com/topic/walls-close-in-russiagate-perpetrators-durham/
The Trumpys were guilty of collusion. https://www.americanprogress.org/pr...paign-colluded-russia-caps-neera-tanden-says/
too bad Mueller disagrees
But we are way past that now I suggest you read the OP's 2 posts before you react
CIA know all this was junk back in 2016 and warned the FBI
Wrong, Durham, after what, three years now, has come up with next to nothing, one low level person on a procedural violation and another after a year he still can’t get into Court
You know he has nothing when he releases a 79 page document accusing another low level individual in which he spends less than three quarters of one page on that person and the remainder of the whatever it was regurgitating without documentation right wing media innuendos. And the irony is that he comes out with the charges one day after the statue of limitations runs out on the supposed crime the person committed
You know he has nothing when he releases a 79 page document accusing another low level individual in which he spends less than three quarters of one page on that person and the remainder of the whatever it was regurgitating without documentation right wing media innuendos. And the irony is that he comes out with the charges one day after the statue of limitations runs out on the supposed crime the person committed
Mueller didn’t disagree, just concluded they were too stupid to even know they were violating the law, and you got to be beyond naive to think that the meeting in Trump Tower was really about adoptions
All you are doing is rehashing the same lame conspiracies and innuendos we have been hearing for five years now
Monad Portal
Was it me?
Yeah. WHEN ITS HUNTER DOING IT!!!!!!!!!!
you aren't paying attention. the whole charade is being exposed.
The reason for this filing is Sussman trying to suppress it in court.
I tend to agree with you the Big Fish will get away (since there is really no accounting for culpability)
But we know there was no "Russian collusion" by Turmp
We know Clinton bankrolled the Steele dossier and Sussman was representing her interests thru Perkins Coie
We know Trump was correct when he said he was "wiretapped" (using the wrong term but he was being spied on even at the Executive Office Build as well as Trump tower)
We know the entire Alpha bank was phony info - topic here
and we know the CIA knew in 2016 the info was phony and warned the FBI
No Mueller said no Russian collusion.
Collusion is not the same as taking an opposition research meeting ( no quid pro quo offered)
BidenPresident
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Honest question: What is the "Russia collusion narrative?"
BidenPresident
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Factually false.
We all saw Donald Trumpf on national television beg the KGB to hack Democratic party computers.
Was Donald Trumpf an undercover KGB spy?
Obviously not, Trump is way too stupid and incompetent to be an undercover spy. FSB would never, ever trust him with covert ops.
What Sussman is trying to suppress in Court is inclusion of the Dossier into the case since the Dossier was never even mentioned in the original inditement charges. And in the end, the worse Durham can convict Sussman on is lying to the FBI, anything beyond that is a he said/she said case, kinda like that meeting in Trump Tower
Durham’s only motive is to keep the “investigation” open to generate innuendo for the right wing media to frame as conspiracies, thusly explaining his latest 79 page release, and, with the probability a GOP House full of looney tunes he can secure additional funding to keep the charade going
Nothing new
Bigdog
Harris - make America a 3rd world shithole
If he had to use public TV to contact the KGB,... then obviously, he was not pootie's puppet.
BidenPresident
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If he had to use public TV to contact the KGB,... then obviously, he was not pootie's puppet.
Russian responded within hours.
He was a tool, double entendre.
Bigdog
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The whole world wants to know where the Hillbag's 33,000 gov't server deleted emails are, especially the friends and family of the Americans killed in Benghazi under her supervision.
BidenPresident
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Mueller report. Documented. Tired of you people asking for proof when it is easily available.
It's pretty obvious why Vlad Putin was desperate for Trump to be elected over Clinton and Biden.
If he had to use public TV to contact the KGB,... then obviously, he was not pootie's puppet.
Begging for Kremlin help against domestic political opponents on TV is a first in American presidential history.