Russian navy evacuates flagship Moskva in Black Sea

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one of the Russian Navy's most important warships has been badly damaged in the Black Sea, a massive blow to a military struggling against Ukrainian resistance 50 days into Vladimir Putin's invasion of his neighbor.

Russian sailors evacuated the guided-missile cruiser Moskva, the flagship of its Black Sea fleet, after a fire that detonated ammunition aboard, Russia's defense ministry said.

Ukraine's Operational Command South claimed Thursday that the Moskva had begun to sink after it was hit Ukrainian Neptune anti-ship missiles.

"In the Black Sea operational zone, Neptune anti-ship cruise missiles hit the cruiser Moskva, the flagship of the Russian Black Sea Fleet -- it received significant damage," the statement said. "A fire broke out. Other units of the ship's group tried to help, but a storm and a powerful explosion of ammunition overturned the cruiser and it began to sink."

Russia's defense ministry said Thursday that the Moskva "remains afloat" and that measures were being taken to tow it to port. The ministry said the crew had been evacuated to other Black Sea Fleet ships in the area.

Kremlin Spokesman Dmitry Peskov repeatedly declined to answer questions about the fate of the Moskva during a daily media call Thursday.

"This is a topic for the Ministry of Defense, I can't say anything," he said.

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US National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan said on Thursday that "the way that this has unfolded is a big blow to Russia," as Moscow has had to admit its flagship has been badly damaged.

"And they've had to kind of choose between two stories. One story is that it was just incompetence, and the other is that they came under attack. And neither is a particularly good outcome for them," Sullivan told an audience at the Economic Club of Washington, D.C.

Whatever happened to the Moskva, analysts say its loss would strike hard at the heart of the Russian navy as well as national pride, comparable to the US Navy losing a battleship during World War II or an aircraft carrier today.

"Only the loss of a ballistic missile submarine or the Kutznetsov (Russia's lone aircraft carrier) would inflict a more serious blow to Russian morale and the navy's reputation with the Russian public," said Carl Schuster, a retired US Navy captain and former director of operations at the US Pacific Command's Joint Intelligence Center.

Alessio Patalano, professor of war and strategy at King's College in London, said losing the warship would be a "massive blow" for Russia.
 
The name Putin will become a new saying which will essentially mean 'stepped in it.'

'He pulled a putin and was never able to live down the embarrassment.'
 
Wow. Major setback for the foolish Russian miscalculation of their ability to simply walk in and take Ukraine.
 
guno said:
Russian navy evacuates flagship Moskva in Black Sea
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That is a lot of things, but winning is not one of them. Putin is in serious trouble, and has put his country into serious trouble. trump was an idiot for supporting Putin.
 
My guess: According to "leaders" in Moskva (Moscow to you folks that don't speak po-ruskii)... "The ship was delivering emergency food rations to the people in Ukraine via the missile delivery system!"
 
Damocles said:
My guess: According to "leaders" in Moskva (Moscow to you folks that don't speak po-ruskii)... "The ship was delivering emergency food rations to the people in Ukraine via the missile delivery system!"
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During the Winter War with Finland, Molotov claimed Soviets were just dropping bread baskets, when they were dropping some of the first cluster bombs. The Finns called those cluster bombs Molotov Bread Baskets. When "neighbors" bring the Finns "bread baskets" they like to offer a "cocktail" in return, so the Finns gave the Russians Molotov Cocktails in return.

I have a hard time forgiving any country who was allies with the Nazis, but the Finns did have a major Jewish unit, with a wartime synagogue in the middle of their lines. It amuses me to think of the Nazis stuck with a synagogue on their frontline. I mostly give the Finns a pass.
 
AssHatZombie said:
But Trump will always mean winning.
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trump lost 3 presidential runs. Two so badly he denies they ever happened. All his casinos went bankrupt. his airline went bankrupt. Two dozen of his other businesses collapsed. his return on his inheritance was below market rates; he is below average. he has an awful lot of losing in there.
 
Walt said:
trump lost 3 presidential runs. Two so badly he denies they ever happened. All his casinos went bankrupt. his airline went bankrupt. Two dozen of his other businesses collapsed. his return on his inheritance was below market rates; he is below average. he has an awful lot of losing in there.
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trump

2.
to beat (someone or something) by saying or doing something better.
 
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