"What Should Russia Do With Ukraine"

Jack said:
Russia should leave Ukraine.
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Indeed, Jack.

All officers and NCO's who participated in the war crimes must be court-martialed and sent to prison along with the enlisted who participated in war crimes.

Putin mus be tried as a war criminal.
 
Earl said:
Indeed, Jack.

All officers and NCO's who participated in the war crimes must be court-martialed and sent to prison along with the enlisted who participated in war crimes.

Putin mus be tried as a war criminal.
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Fly over there and bring Putin to The Hague.

"The International Criminal Court (ICC) investigates and, where warranted, tries individuals charged with the gravest crimes of concern to the international community: genocide, war crimes, crimes against humanity and the crime of aggression. As a court of last resort, it seeks to complement, not replace, national Courts. Governed by an international treaty called the Rome Statute, the ICC is the world's first permanent international criminal court."
https://www.icc-cpi.int/
 
Russia has already made their point in humiliating us.

They've demonstrated that we're willing to attack hapless nations like Afghanistan and Iraq,
not that we could manage the occupations once we were there,

but when Russia invades an actual, civilized European nation like the Ukraine,
we're scare shitless to do anything.

I was drafted to go to Vietnam for absolutely no sensible reason.
Nobody is being drafted to go to the Ukraine for a legitimate reason...the preservation of Europe.

Americans can only look in the mirror to check their makeup...not to really look at themselves.
They don't have the courage for that.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
Russia has already made their point in humiliating us.

They've demonstrated that we're willing to attack hapless nations like Afghanistan and Iraq,
not that we could manage the occupations once we were there,

but when Russia invades an actual, civilized European nation like the Ukraine,
we're scare shitless to do anything.

I was drafted to go to Vietnam for absolutely no sensible reason.
Nobody is being drafted to go to the Ukraine for a legitimate reason...the preservation of Europe.

Americans can only look in the mirror to check their makeup...not to really look at themselves.
They don't have the courage for that.
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You stupid old fool, it would result in WWIII. I want them to be scared shitless. I do not want WWIII.
 
"What Should Russia Do With Ukraine"
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That depends- AS EVER- upon NATO. If NATO continues to pump weaponry into Ukraine then the Russians have no choice. They have to seal Ukraine's borders.

If Ukraine capitulates and becomes a neutral nation then no occupation would be necessary- just run-of-mill surveillance.

However, Crimea, Donetsk and Lugansk want to be part of the Russian Federation. To ensure that that happens- according to the will of the inhabitants- the Russians have to secure Ukraine's southern coast .

My two rubles.
 
Clemenza explained it best.
[h=2]"These Things Gotta Happen Every 5 Years Or So, 10 Years. Helps To Get Rid Of The Bad Blood."[/h]
 
You can thank me later, Jerk

Haw, haw................................haw.

The Resurgence of Nazism in Ukraine

https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/02/11/the-resurgence-of-nazism-in-ukraine/


Ukraine’s neo-Nazi problem

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cohen-ukraine-commentary-idUSKBN1GV2TY


Hundreds in Ukraine attend marches celebrating Nazi SS soldiers
For first time ever, parade celebrating 14th Waffen Grenadier Division of SS, made up of ethnic Ukrainians, takes place in capital Kyiv

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https://www.timesofisrael.com/hundreds-in-ukraine-attend-marches-celebrating-nazi-ss-soldiers/


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martin;
Its argument could not be weaker in laying out a case of Nazism in Ukraine
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It must be a crap article, martin.
 
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Interesting theme that stands out in the letter is the continuous and often use of Nazism references. I got to believe few in the West even think of Nazism as really relevant to anything today other than an inappropriate and partisan generalization of another view, but apparently, Nazism is applicable to the Russian viewpoint.

I understand Russian history, but it has been at least three or four generations removed from that era, so the heavy reliance upon the Nazism theme is bewildering
 
archives said:
I understand Russian history, but it has been at least three or four generations removed from that era, so the heavy reliance upon the Nazism theme is bewildering
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You'd see it better if it was you that lost twenty million civilians to the Nazis.
 
moon said:
You'd see it better if it was you that lost twenty million civilians to the Nazis.
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Ah, that was like eighty years ago, and probability is most of that Russian generation has since passed, the history and film is atrocious, but find it hard to believe today's Russians identify with it
 
archives said:
Ah, that was like eighty years ago, and probability is most of that Russian generation has since passed, the history and film is atrocious, but find it hard to believe today's Russians identify with it
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The Second World War is still officially remembered in Russia and throughout the former Soviet Union as the Great Patriotic War (June 22, 1941 - May 9, 1945). It is difficult to overstate how important memory of the Soviet struggle has become to present-day Russia. A very selective narrative of that conflict with Nazi Germany forms an integral part of Russian political culture and a tool of policymaking. Understanding Soviet wartime mobilization helps us contextualize contemporary rhetoric.
https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/great-patriotic-war-russia-invasion-ukraine
 
archives said:
Ah, that was like eighty years ago, and probability is most of that Russian generation has since passed, the history and film is atrocious, but find it hard to believe today's Russians identify with it
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You think that Japanese kids aren't taught about Hiroshima / Nagasaki and Vietnamese kids about Agent Orange ?
 
anatta said:
The Second World War is still officially remembered in Russia and throughout the former Soviet Union as the Great Patriotic War (June 22, 1941 - May 9, 1945). It is difficult to overstate how important memory of the Soviet struggle has become to present-day Russia. A very selective narrative of that conflict with Nazi Germany forms an integral part of Russian political culture and a tool of policymaking. Understanding Soviet wartime mobilization helps us contextualize contemporary rhetoric.
https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/great-patriotic-war-russia-invasion-ukraine
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I understand that, but what I find question is that for a people eighty years removed from those events, several generations, especially given the availability of social media and its' emphasis on today, exactly how relevant is it to the Russian population?

Is it Russian oligarchs and politicians who have never really had to come up with political realties stuck in the last Century with the only references they have ever used are antiquated political themes they are now employing hoping to rally the people? Got to believe the Russian people, at least they under sixty population, are smarter than that
 
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