Russia celebrates anniversary of ' the return of Crimea to the Motherland '

A waste of time. He is ruled by his hate of Jews and love of Putin.

You just made my threadban list, half-wit.

There are no instances of ' Jew hatred ' in any of my posts - which makes you a lying fucker.
 
Using the "referendum" as justification for illegally taking the Crimea is a joke. Voting with Russian troops supervising and both options resulting in separation from the Ukraine is a real example of a stolen election.

You lie. The referendum choices;

Join the Russian Federation as federal subject of Russia?
Restore the 1992 Crimea constitution and become a part of Ukraine?

Apologize and fuck off.
 
You lie. The referendum choices;

Join the Russian Federation as federal subject of Russia?
Restore the 1992 Crimea constitution and become a part of Ukraine?

Apologize and fuck off.

The first option:

1. The first asks: do you support reunifying Crimea with Russia as a subject of the Russian Federation?

Second option:

2. Do you support the restoration of the 1992 Crimean constitution and the status of Crimea as a part of Ukraine? (The wording "restoring the 1992 constitution" does not make it clear whether this refers to the original version of the constitution, declaring Crimea an independent state, or the later amended version, in which Crimea was an autonomous republic within Ukraine).

Nothing retains the current status. Crimea reunifies with Russia or becomes an independent state or an autonomous republic within Ukraine.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26514797

Looks like you owe the apology. It must be hard trying to justify Russian aggression.
 
The first option:

1. The first asks: do you support reunifying Crimea with Russia as a subject of the Russian Federation?

Second option:

2. Do you support the restoration of the 1992 Crimean constitution and the status of Crimea as a part of Ukraine? (The wording "restoring the 1992 constitution" does not make it clear whether this refers to the original version of the constitution, declaring Crimea an independent state, or the later amended version, in which Crimea was an autonomous republic within Ukraine).

Nothing retains the current status. Crimea reunifies with Russia or becomes an independent state or an autonomous republic within Ukraine.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26514797

Looks like you owe the apology. It must be hard trying to justify Russian aggression.

You're having trouble with ' become part of Ukraine ' Any ambiguity found therein is contrived by sore losers- prone to mendacity.
Where's your apology ?
 
You're having trouble with ' become part of Ukraine ' Any ambiguity found therein is contrived by sore losers- prone to mendacity.
Where's your apology ?

You are ignoring the provisions of the 1992 Crimean constitution. "Part of the Ukraine" was as an independent state or autonomous republic "within Ukraine."

An autonomous republic does not make it part of Ukraine as it existed prior to the vote; thus, Ukrainians were being forced to change the status of Crimea.
 
I'm a little suspicious when Dictators win with 97% of the Vote.

Me, too.

Biden breaks record for most votes in history for any presidential candidate


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/biden-us-election-votes-record-trump-b1595565.html
 
You are ignoring the provisions of the 1992 Crimean constitution. "Part of the Ukraine" was as an independent state or autonomous republic "within Ukraine."

An autonomous republic does not make it part of Ukraine as it existed prior to the vote; thus, Ukrainians were being forced to change the status of Crimea.

The amended Constitution affirms Crimea as ' part of Ukraine ' - clear enough for all but the NYT, Kiev and Fox news, apparently. The fact is that 97% of Crimeans spat on Choice 2 anyway- which leaves your complaint where ?
You'd have known this when you made your regrettable post. You're a liar- on two counts.
 
The amended Constitution affirms Crimea as ' part of Ukraine ' - clear enough for all but the NYT, Kiev and Fox news, apparently. The fact is that 97% of Crimeans spat on Choice 2 anyway- which leaves your complaint where ?
You'd have known this when you made your regrettable post. You're a liar- on two counts.

You refuse to accept that they were forced to change their status and that the referendum was forced on them by Russian troops. The fact is that Russia has aggressively forced their dominance on Crimea and is now trying to do the same thing on Ukraine.

If the Confederacy passed a referendum to secede from the U. S. it would still be illegal. You are attempting to justify naked aggression.
 
You refuse to accept that they were forced to change their status and that the referendum was forced on them by Russian troops. The fact is that Russia has aggressively forced their dominance on Crimea and is now trying to do the same thing on Ukraine.

If the Confederacy passed a referendum to secede from the U. S. it would still be illegal. You are attempting to justify naked aggression.

Crimea was always Russian until Krushev , a Ukrainian, illegally signed it over. Crimeans didn't need ' forcing ' to reinforce their own Russian identity.

This is our last polite conversation until you apologize for calling me antisemitic .
 
No- they're not ' highly suspect ' and the results are unchallenged- although other states object to the outcome. Tough tittie. Case closed. Crimea is Russian- again.

Remember the Crimean War ?

^Loves terrorists and brutal thug dictators. :palm:
 
Crimea was always Russian until Krushev , a Ukrainian, illegally signed it over. Crimeans didn't need ' forcing ' to reinforce their own Russian identity.

This is our last polite conversation until you apologize for calling me antisemitic .

Myth 12: ‘Crimea was always Russian’

Crimea has been in Russian hands for only a fraction of its history. If unchallenged, the Kremlin’s fiction that Crimea willingly and legitimately ‘rejoined’ Russia risks further undermining Ukraine’s territorial integrity and encouraging other expansionist powers.

What is the myth?
This myth holds that Crimea was always Russian, and that its seizure by Russia in March 2014 simply rectified a historical injustice. As this myth also has it, reaccession into Russia was also a genuine act of self-determination on the part of the people of Crimea – who, after all, are majority ethnic Russian and Russian speakers – through a ‘referendum’.

From the outset, the Russian leadership portrayed the annexation of Crimea as the long-awaited and rightful ‘return’ of the peninsula to its proper home. According to the Russian president, Vladimir Putin, ‘… in the minds of people, Crimea has always been and still is an inseparable part of Russia’. Although the referendum to legitimize Russia’s military intervention was in reality a token exercise conducted after the fact and under duress, Putin insisted: ‘We held a referendum in strict compliance with the UN charter and international legislation. For us, the case is closed."

Why is it wrong?
Less than 6 per cent of Crimea’s written history (from the 9th century BC to date) belongs to the Russian chapter. Before 2014, Crimea was under Russian control for a total of only 168 years. In fact, Russia is just one of several powers that have aimed to dominate the peninsula. At the dawn of its history, Crimea was a Greek land. It later developed at the intersection of different civilizations and empires. Until the mid-15th century, the peninsula was a space of unique cohabitation between the Khanate of Crimea, Genoese colonies on the coast and the Principality of Theodor (Byzantium) in the southwest. Thereafter, the khanate expanded and became, for over 300 years, a dominant power as a protectorate under the Ottoman Empire. Crimea was an Orient in miniature, with a Turkic-Muslim culture.

Russia invaded Crimea in 1783, as part of a westward expansion seeking control of the Mediterranean and the Middle East. The ambition of Catherine the Great was to establish a new Byzantium in Constantinople, with her grandson Constantine as its emperor. Defeat in the Crimean War of 1853–56 temporarily halted Russia’s continuing territorial aspirations in the region by leading to a ban on military arsenals in the Black Sea, although within 14 years Russia unilaterally abrogated this obligation and continued its military build-up.


https://www.chathamhouse.org/2021/0...bate-russia/myth-12-crimea-was-always-russian
 
Using the "referendum" as justification for illegally taking the Crimea is a joke. Voting with Russian troops supervising and both options resulting in separation from the Ukraine is a real example of a stolen election.
Crimea is historic Russian, street signs in Russian, and mostly Russian speaking
The referendum for what ever it's worth got 95.5% of voters approval

But there wasn't a shot fired during the annexation. Seems the populace was fine with it
and we know Uk will fight back if it's not (Donbas/current invasion)
 
Reports on the Ukraine conflict from the Russian perspective and events in Russia are pretty much banned in the Western media- but the BBC gets away with it by slanting its articles as far towards ' anti-Russia ' as it can while still presenting some truth. This is quite refreshing compared to the staggeringly false propaganda pumped out by others.

You are blatant


Why do you think people in the west would believe a thing you say?
 
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