Ukraine follies: SOS, different day.

[Taichiliberal]

So, to distract from his inability to run his country democratically, let alone employ true socialism, Putin works his hard on for the old USSR by going after the Ukraine.

And in typical fashion, the USA via NATO responds with a version of "the domino effect" that worked so well half a century ago.

And Zelensky, a comic in all seriousness, is asking for planes, guns, rockets, no fly zones etc.

I say this to Zelensky, be careful what you wish for, because I don't think you'll want the Ukraine to be a version of Vietnam ... proxy wars don't end well for the home team, ya know.

But hey, maybe it'll all escalate and a year or two some idiot will launch a nuke? Or the Middle East will erupt and Israel will lob one? Or India? Or Pakistan?

China seems to be giving a lot of lip service, as they're seriously into setting up trade/business shop in Africa. That should be interesting.

And all the while our local geniuses are telling you that gasoline is better than electric, wind, solar, hydro, geo-thermal ... while you shell out $5/gal. at the pump.

But don't worry, once the Ukraine is stable and Zelensky and Putin either hack out a compromise or our millions of dollars in arms wins the day, all will be right with the world. Right?

 

[Sailor]

It never cease to amaze me how willfully ignorant lefites are about the real world. Twitter one liners are their soul source of "intellect".

 

[Legion]

It never cease to amaze me how willfully ignorant lefites are about the real world. Twitter one liners are their soul source of "intellect".

The chronology of the posts™ is clear on that point.

Touchy-Feely Liberal is smacked down again.

 

[anatta]

Putin is a socialist? At least you didnt say he was a Communist (like another here I wont name)

Im more concerned with the weapons escalations -not nukes ( although they are always there)
Poland now wants Reaper drones. we have our best anti-tank weapons all over Ukraine

did you notice not one Congress-critter has endorsed any peace talks,much less offer to mediate?

 

[Hawkeye10]

Putin is a socialist? At least you didnt say he was a Communist (like another here I wont name)

Im more concerned with the weapons escalations -not nukes ( although they are always there)
Poland now wants Reaper drones. we have our best anti-tank weapons all over Ukraine

did you notice not one Congress-critter has endorsed any peace talks,much less offer to mediate?

They lobby for war instead....they are infants....and they are getting us hurt.

 

[anatta]

They lobby for war instead....they are infants....and they are getting us hurt.

Zelensky would love to be a western client state Ukraine is far too corrupt to be in NATO

Zelensky would gladly drag us all into war, get high tech weapons all over Europe,
and make Putin even more dangerous then to just Uk

and Congress applaudes ..and the band plays on without even lip service to de-escalation


Kwik Kwiz: what are US security interests in Ukraine?? Bueller?? anyone?? *silence*

 

[Hawkeye10]

Zelensky would love to be a western client state Ukraine is far too corrupt to be in NATO

Zelensky would gladly drag us all into war, get high tech weapons all over Europe,
and make Putin even more dangerous then to just Uk

and Congress applaudes ..and the band plays on without even lip service to de-escalation


Kwik Kwiz: what are US security interests in Ukraine?? Bueller?? anyone?? *silence*

The West betrayed Ukraine with lies as we pushed them towards this devastation as we incited them into constantly poking the bear. .

This is going to matter.

 

[Taichiliberal]

It never cease to amaze me how willfully ignorant lefites are about the real world. Twitter one liners are their soul source of "intellect".

And EXACTLY what in the OP is NOT about the current "real world", Popeye? Or are YOU just going to parrot the usual right wing rubbish of generalizations, false accusations and goal post moving rhetoric?

 

[Taichiliberal]

Putin is a socialist? At least you didnt say he was a Communist (like another here I wont name)

Im more concerned with the weapons escalations -not nukes ( although they are always there)
Poland now wants Reaper drones. we have our best anti-tank weapons all over Ukraine

did you notice not one Congress-critter has endorsed any peace talks,much less offer to mediate?

In response to your first sentence:

... to distract from his inability to run his country democratically, let alone employ true socialism ...

Not saying what he is (an old Soviet dictator), but he should be doing.

Yep, like I said it's looking like a real proxy war build up.

I believe the Congress folk see the "negotiation" table as synonymous with "peace talks", being that no "formal declaration of war" has been made. I think the Ukrainian civilians would disagree.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Zelensky would love to be a western client state Ukraine is far too corrupt to be in NATO

Zelensky would gladly drag us all into war, get high tech weapons all over Europe,
and make Putin even more dangerous then to just Uk

and Congress applaudes ..and the band plays on without even lip service to de-escalation


Kwik Kwiz: what are US security interests in Ukraine?? Bueller?? anyone?? *silence*

Mineral resources. NATO strategic ally.

 

[Hawkeye10]

In response to your first sentence:

... to distract from his inability to run his country democratically, let alone employ true socialism ...

Yep, like I said it's looking like a real proxy war build up.

I believe the Congress folk see the "negotiation" table as synonymous with "peace talks", being that no "formal declaration of war" has been made. I think the Ukrainian civilians would disagree.

I think the Ukrainian are saying "Where are you West, you who talk so big....we are doing our part!"

 

[Taichiliberal]

They lobby for war instead....they are infants....and they are getting us hurt.

Mmm, on one hand they put "negotiations" on par with "peace talks"...then they're all big bucks for weapons. I'd like to see the line item votes on this stuff. Interesting.

 

[Taichiliberal]

I think the Ukrainian are saying "Where are you West, you who talk so big....we are doing our part!"

They weren't saying that when all those nazi-ish folk were battling the "pro-Russian" separatist guys....and we didn't care. Zelensky should have shut down all the old neo-nazi clowns, because that was Putin's excuse.

But Zelensky is dreaming if he thinks there's going to be a no fly zone....the rest of the world isn't going to start WW3 for the Ukraine (at least not for them, not now).

A hot mess, to be sure.

 

[reagansghost]

Zelensky would love to be a western client state Ukraine is far too corrupt to be in NATO

Zelensky would gladly drag us all into war, get high tech weapons all over Europe,
and make Putin even more dangerous then to just Uk

and Congress applaudes ..and the band plays on without even lip service to de-escalation


Kwik Kwiz: what are US security interests in Ukraine?? Bueller?? anyone?? *silence*

that crackerjack Russian army is fun to watch on TV, eh sport?

too fuckin funny!

 

[reagansghost]

Trump explains to Fox News host that there's "a lot of love" behind Putin's invasion of Ukraine

"You say, what's the purpose of this? They had a country," Trump explained. "You could see it was a country where there was a lot of love and we're doing it because, you know, somebody wants to make his country larger or he wants to put it back the way it was when actually it didn't work very well."

..what in the fuck is this mental patient talking about?

 

[anatta]

Mineral resources. NATO strategic ally.

even Zelensky agrees Uk is not going to be in NATO
the mineral resources aren't under our control. lots of places (Afghanistan) have "mineral resources"

 

[Taichiliberal]

Trump explains to Fox News host that there's "a lot of love" behind Putin's invasion of Ukraine

"You say, what's the purpose of this? They had a country," Trump explained. "You could see it was a country where there was a lot of love and we're doing it because, you know, somebody wants to make his country larger or he wants to put it back the way it was when actually it didn't work very well."

..what in the fuck is this mental patient talking about?

SOS he's always babbled all his life. This is a trust funded con man who had achieved the highest office in the country with world recognition. He's invincible in his mind...so long as there's no legal convictions on record.

And the MAGA minions will march right off the cliff for him....as he stands back and concocts more BS as to why he can't understand their actions because he had nothing to do with it. Amazing!

 

[Taichiliberal]

Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Mineral resources. NATO strategic ally.

even Zelensky agrees Uk is not going to be in NATO
the mineral resources aren't under our control. lots of places (Afghanistan) have "mineral resources"

No, they're not....but YOU wanted to know what they had to offer that would entail all this nonsense. Once free of Russia interference, "better" direct trade agreements are sure to follow. Just saying.

 

[Nordberg]

It never cease to amaze me how willfully ignorant lefites are about the real world. Twitter one liners are their soul source of "intellect".

That was an example of what you bitched about. The Putin war of choice is entering the 4th week. It is not going as Putin hoped or planned.
It is " sole' source.
You should bail on this war because it appears Fox gnus is heading that way.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
It never cease to amaze me how willfully ignorant lefites are about the real world. Twitter one liners are their soul source of "intellect".

That was an example of what you bitched about. The Putin war of choice is entering the 4th week. It is not going as Putin hoped or planned.
It is " sole' source.
You should bail on this war because it appears Fox gnus is heading that way.

I asked Popeye what exactly in the OP is NOT dealing with current real world events. So far, silence ... not even the usual smoke screen and goal post shifting rhetoric from him. Like all MAGA minions, when they can't defend their blathering, they just sail away and hopes no one notices.