reagansghost
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more than that, he's proposing an even stronger alliance between Western powers than NATO
what does daddy Vlad think about that idea? lol
Zelensky concedes that Ukraine won't be part of NATO
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more than that, he's proposing an even stronger alliance between Western powers than NATO
what does daddy Vlad think about that idea? lol
reagansghost
eternal
how do you get a "stronger alliance" then NATO?
Zelenski can get all the press and "alliances" he wants - he's going to be ruling over rubble if they dont get some serious discussions going
The olive drab resistance thing is nice, but it's letting Russia pulverize Uk
take off the combat gear, shave and get some negotiations going
moon
Satire for Sanity
You're comic hero is on the verge of surrender, his country is semi-flattened, it will never join NATO , it will be disarmed and denNazified and your Canadian sniper is toast.
You won, I guess.
Haw, haw...........................haw.
well i think it's gonna be Odessa as the Black Sea Port. I cant see Russia giving access to Sea of Azov because it requires giving Uk access thru Kerch Strait >Crimea and Donbas are gone
Kyiv getting hammered doesnt seem to get Zelensky moving - I mean he can make Russia bleed but he's also getting Uk pulverized
US and NATO need to look for an off ramp for Putin
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello moon,
And thus he has exposed Putin's lie.
Putin was only using an impossible demand as a pretext because he knew is was impossible.
Now that Zelenskyy has shifted position, and Putin's demand has apparently been met, Putin should end his assault.
So why is he still pursuing it?
Because it never was about NATO.
It has been about conquest from the get-go.
Putin should surrender and resign.
Zelenskyy would make a far superior president of both Russia and Ukraine.
If not Zelenskyy then Nalvany.
End the madness. Get a good leader, Russia!
And thus he has exposed Putin's lie.
Putin was only using an impossible demand as a pretext because he knew is was impossible.
Now that Zelenskyy has shifted position, and Putin's demand has apparently been met, Putin should end his assault.
So why is he still pursuing it?
Because it never was about NATO.
It has been about conquest from the get-go.
Putin should surrender and resign.
Zelenskyy would make a far superior president of both Russia and Ukraine.
If not Zelenskyy then Nalvany.
End the madness. Get a good leader, Russia!
moon
Satire for Sanity
No NATO. Next up is the disarming and deNazification of Ukraine.
Don't you people ever listen ?
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello moon,
That wasn't part of Putin's unreasonable demands before he attacked.
Moving the goal posts.
Do you think Jewish Zelenskyy is a Nazi?
Looks to me like the whole Nazi thing is a bunch of BS. The main stream news has said nothing of it.
Must be nothing but Putin propaganda.
That wasn't part of Putin's unreasonable demands before he attacked.
Moving the goal posts.
Do you think Jewish Zelenskyy is a Nazi?
Looks to me like the whole Nazi thing is a bunch of BS. The main stream news has said nothing of it.
Must be nothing but Putin propaganda.
moon
Satire for Sanity
Excuse my brevity- but you don't seem to be able to acknowledge defeat
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cohen-ukraine-commentary-idUSKBN1GV2TY
reagansghost
eternal
Include all democracies in an alliance again totalitarianism comrade
you really this stupid?
reagansghost
eternal
that's all horseshit comrade, you drank the koolaid
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello moon,
Thanks for the link.
From your link: "To be clear, the Kremlin’s claims that Ukraine is a hornets’ nest of fascists are false: far-right parties performed poorly in Ukraine’s last parliamentary elections, and Ukrainians reacted with alarm to the National Militia’s demonstration in Kiev."
Ukraine has it's right wing extremists just like many countries do. They are the fringe, not the mainstream. When right wing extremism invades government, then you get another Hitler. and most of the world has little taste for that.
Certainly it is no reason for Russia to be attacking Ukraine. There is no justifiable reason. It is senseless and tragic.
Excuse my brevity- but you don't seem to be able to acknowledge defeat
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cohen-ukraine-commentary-idUSKBN1GV2TY
Thanks for the link.
From your link: "To be clear, the Kremlin’s claims that Ukraine is a hornets’ nest of fascists are false: far-right parties performed poorly in Ukraine’s last parliamentary elections, and Ukrainians reacted with alarm to the National Militia’s demonstration in Kiev."
Ukraine has it's right wing extremists just like many countries do. They are the fringe, not the mainstream. When right wing extremism invades government, then you get another Hitler. and most of the world has little taste for that.
Certainly it is no reason for Russia to be attacking Ukraine. There is no justifiable reason. It is senseless and tragic.
moon
Satire for Sanity
The Neo-Nazis have been shelling the Donbass for eight years. !4,000 people have died.
That particular link was simply to correct your stated impression that there were no Ukrainian neo-Nazis.
I you want to research it further just search ' Ukrainian Neo-Nazis ' You'll get a shock.
LMAO you wanna include China on that? fat chance
reagansghost
eternal
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello moon,
I am certain if Putin is saying it, that there is plenty of propaganda out there for anyone who wants to search for it. They'd get covered up.
After all, Propaganda and Message Control was Putin's specialty in the KGB.
I am certain if Putin is saying it, that there is plenty of propaganda out there for anyone who wants to search for it. They'd get covered up.
After all, Propaganda and Message Control was Putin's specialty in the KGB.
moon
Satire for Sanity
Are you scared to research it or just plumb lazy ?
moon
Satire for Sanity
Yes- as long as that choice is to tell NATO to get lost.
They actually made that choice, you may recall, which ended with a US-backed anti-Russian coup.
