China Asks the US Details on Biolabs in Ukraine

You're making it sound like "natural immunity" is what every COVID patient gets, never wanes, and is effective against other strains.

The CDC never said any of that.
again with gross misunderstanding and absolutist claims

natural immunity is simply a function of the immune system dues to exposure of the antigen
"mileage may vary" ( as the old gasoline commercials used to say)
 
what claims are those Salty? The OPand the additions add to the questions and show the creeping denials
why did we build a Level 3 lab in Odessa?
If you choose to ignore it or can't figure it out - go ahead and say "disinformation" like a good little boy
Maybe Biden will buy you an ice cream

Why on Earth would the USA put bio weapon labs in Ukraine? It just does not make sense. I remember, you are the one claiming that it all happened while trump was president. So I guess I should be asking why would trump put bio weapon labs in Ukraine? We would want to keep that close to America, so we would get the weapons, not Ukraine or worse yet Russia.

There are many bio labs in Ukraine that serve many different, reasonable purposes. The two that are connected to the Defense Department conduct biological surveillance. They look for biological hazards spreading towards Europe from Asia. Avian Flu is a major concern, but there are many others.
 
You're making it sound like "natural immunity" is what every COVID patient gets, never wanes, and is effective against other strains.

The CDC never said any of that.

Not at all. What part of my post leads you to make that conclusion?
 
Delta isn't around anymore, and when did they say that if you caught Omicron, you're protected vs. Delta?

In other words, TONS AND TONS OF QUALIFIERS.

So you have to qualify "natural immunity".
AFAIK, Delta is still around even if Omicron is dominant. They read that it can provide partial protection. Like the vaxxed can still get sick, it's reduced to sniffles or other minor symptoms.

The question you should be asking is "Which is better, getting vaxxed and boosted or catching Omicron or Delta". The answer, of course, is vaxxed.
 
delta is still around.
you are in the bad habit of making absolutists claims which is not helpful in any medical discussion

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/cor...-variant-gone-heres-what-experts-say/2731588/
"You can see 99.3% is the estimate of all of the COVID cases are the omicron variant and just 0.7% are delta and nothing else is showing up at this point," she said.

But the effects of the delta variant are still being felt in the U.S. even as omicron surges.

Last week, Dr. Rochelle Walensky, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said most reported COVID deaths in the U.S. were still from the delta variant.


OK motherfucker...

Your link is from JANUARY...and in JANUARY your link said Delta was only 0.7% of the cases.

So by now, Delta is completely gone.

So what good is contracting Omicron going to do for you?
 
teach it Dutch! you have more patience then i do with it

the 90 day thing on 'natural (acquired) immunity is actually on (or was on) the CDC site
incredible..i dont know why our health bureaucracy is so bad -same with "vaxxing prevents transmission"

The CDC is written by medical professionals. They don't always dumb it down for Trumpers and people who never went to college. :)
 
Neither do I accept Putin's lies regardless of who is the mouthpiece.

TBH, I don't know if Dookie really believes Putin's lies anymore than you or I but it should be very clear to all Dookie is pushing Putin's agenda on JPP.

They clearly hate Democrats more than they love America, so are willing to side with Putin, Kim Jong-un, and even Bin Laden against Democrats and America.
 
"mileage may vary"

Exactly.

Mileage may vary...so that would mean that encouraging people to go out and contract COVID instead of getting vaccinated, which is what you did all year last year, is psycho because you made promises of natural immunity that the data just doesn't support.

Because of you, tens of millions of people now have long-haul COVID while ABSOLUTELY NO ONE has permanent "natural immunity" to it.
 
Not at all. What part of my post leads you to make that conclusion?

All of your posts lead to that conclusion.

Natural immunity isn't a thing...but long-haul COVID most definitely is.

At least 50,000,000 people have long-haul COVID now , but exactly 0 people have permanent natural immunity to COVID.
 
AFAIK, Delta is still around even if Omicron is dominant.

As of mid-January, Delta was only 0.7% of all total cases, a nominal number.

It is now mid-March a, so what percentage of cases are delta today?

Do you know?

You don't know, right?

You have no fucking idea, do you?

You're just talking out of your ass.


They read that it can provide partial protection.

I don't know what "partial protection" means in this context, but it sure sounds like you're moving the goalposts on the efficacy.


Like the vaxxed can still get sick, it's reduced to sniffles or other minor symptoms.

According to Glenn Beck, his second COVID infection was worse than his first one.

So whither his natural immunity?
 
Why Anatta is such a dishonest, lying propagandist scumbag:

He says this:

delta is still around

But then posts this from January:

just 0.7% are delta and nothing else is showing up at this point

So...Delta was a whopping 0.7% of all COVID cases in mid-January.

Anatta claims Delta is still around today, but offers no data to support that lie, and the only data regarding Delta is the microscopic number of cases in mid-January.

Typical.
 
where did I say to get the disease?

You gotta be fucking kidding me with this bullshit.

FOR ALL OF 2021, YOU WERE HERE ON JPP ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO INFECT THEMSELVES WITH COVID BECAUSE YOU SAID IT OFFERED BETTER PROTECTION THAN THE VACCINE.
 
They clearly hate Democrats more than they love America, so are willing to side with Putin, Kim Jong-un, and even Bin Laden against Democrats and America.

All I need to hear is that they put politics above the best interests of the nation to make them an enemy of the Constitution.
 
You gotta be fucking kidding me with this bullshit.

FOR ALL OF 2021, YOU WERE HERE ON JPP ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO INFECT THEMSELVES WITH COVID BECAUSE YOU SAID IT OFFERED BETTER PROTECTION THAN THE VACCINE.

Feeling extremely emotional today, Ms. 426? Elvie? Can I call you Elvie?
 
Now, about these bio-labs.

Way back when, the Soviets (remember them?) ran a large biological weapons program.

Including in Ukraine.

Sometimes very bad things happened, like when an anthrax leak killed about 100 folks. The Soviets lied and blamed “bad meat”.

Then, in 1991, the Soviet Union collapsed.

The end of Communism, the triumph of democracy, A WIN for capitalism, etc.

Meanwhile all those labs and the scientists who worked in them were now the property of a defunct and bankrupt state.

Which sorta made them our problem.

Why, you ask?

I'll explain.

So the USA had to eventually figure out a way to put a bunch of scientists on the payroll so they wouldn’t be tempted to sell their services to the highest bidder.

So, during Obama's Reign of Error, the American taxpayer ponied up (without their knowledge) and paid to upgrade bio-security at the labs and found ways for Ukrainian scientists to keep studying deadly pathogenic WMD - not just in the Ukraine, but all over the former Soviet Union, and then in other countries too.

Thus the talk of bio-labs and bio-weapons, which forced the US media to explain that Ukrainian labs weren’t actually doing anything nasty anymore - honest!

Which we now know is a lie, because the mastermind who set it all up got grilled under oath by a Congressional committee. Her name is Nuland. Google it.

Here endeth the lesson.


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In that case you CLEARLY must despise a high percentage of democrats and ALL leftists.

Unlike you, fat boy, I don't hate or despise anyone. I'm a realist and accept that people are what they are. It's like the Scorpion and the Frog story except that the Frogs know enough to entice the Scorpions out in the water a bit, "a matter of trust, you know", then goad the Scorpion into taking a final leap upon the Frog's back. The Frog, who is floating in deep water, simply moves aside and watches the Scorpion motherfucker drown.


No pity for assholes. That's not hate, that's indifference just like Elie Wiesel wrote about "The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference. The opposite of art is not ugliness, it's indifference. The opposite of faith is not heresy, it's indifference. And the opposite of life is not death, it's indifference."
 
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