Zelensky says he has 'cooled' on joining NATO and is open to discussions

Cypress said:
It is remarkable that you consider this evidence of Zelensky caving.

He also said Putin would have to return the stolen territories of Crimea and Donbass, and Russia would have to offer security guarantees to never intervene militarily in Ukraine ever again.

If Putin takes that deal, it is a massively huge win for Zalensky.
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And also demands reparations.

Complete fantasy.
 
Cypress said:
It is remarkable that you consider this evidence of Zelensky caving.

He also said Putin would have to return the stolen territories of Crimea and Donbass, and Russia would have to offer security guarantees to never intervene militarily in Ukraine ever again.

If Putin takes that deal, it is a massively huge win for Zalensky.
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did I say "caving?""" I said path to negotiation..
just go back to blaming Trump for the war, and let me know when you post something serious

and no not "return them" negotiate their status
Why am I always on the side of negotiations, while the war pigs utter refusal to do so got us here?
 
Jack said:
Putin yearns for a Czarist Russia. Everyone else wants to join the 21st century. Why not support Russia joining the Global Community?
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if we wanted to support Russia in the "global community" we wouldnt have been expanding NATO to it's doorstep, egging on Ukraine with a check we cant cash about standing behind them but instead negotiating with Russia over their redlines

Does the word Russiaphobia ring a bell? it''s been our policy one way or the other since Clinton
 
dukkha said:
if we wanted to support Russia in the "global community" we wouldnt have been expanding NATO to it's doorstep, egging on Ukraine with a check we cant cash about standing behind them but instead negotiating with Russia over their redlines

Does the word Russiaphobia ring a bell? it''s been our policy one way or the other since Clinton
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And now this gets rolled into China's mission to kick our asses.
 
dukkha said:
if we wanted to support Russia in the "global community" we wouldnt have been expanding NATO to it's doorstep, egging on Ukraine with a check we cant cash about standing behind them but instead negotiating with Russia over their redlines

Does the word Russiaphobia ring a bell? it''s been our policy one way or the other since Clinton
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Putin fucked up this time. Handed ... I mean HANDED Ukraine to Europe.


Putin ... what an Idiot!
 
Zelensky is not in NATO, yet he expects NATO to honor a pact that he is not in? The logic is not there. Lots of western nations are helping him. His refugees are getting taken and cared for. He is getting arms. The west just is cautious about starting WW3.
 
dukkha said:
i forgot that part about putting Putin in a box- delivering him to Xi for his uses
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This is not master-slave....this is partnership with China in charge but Russia is treated with respect and will not be abandoned no matter what the West says or does. We have picked this fight with Russia since at least 08, but we have gotten a fight with China as well, who hates our guts, who wants to kick our asses, and thinks that they have us by the balls.

Buckle Up.
 
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