Putin brings back gold standard. Was that his plan all along? America is doomed!!

True, but the world standard still seems to be the US dollar.
It never was. There is no 'world standard' currency, other than gold, Bitcoin, silver, or other such currencies. There is one attempt to make a fiat currency a world standard currency, called the Special Drawing Right (or SDR), issued by the UN and under it's authority. The SDR value would be set according to a basket of currencies in the currency market. SDR's are fiat currency. Of the fiat currencies, it would have the best balance sheet associated with it though. Somehow I don't think people will choose yet another fiat currency. The SDR is dead on arrival. Each nation uses it's own currency. Transactions between nations take place according to the agreed upon currency for that transaction only. Dollars are not necessarily involved at all.

For example: If China were to buy a car made in Germany, China would have to buy it quote probably in Euros. Since China uses the Yuan, it would have to convert the necessary funds to Euros on the currency markets to conduct the transaction.
It is the same as you would have to do if you travel to a foreign country. You have to convert some of your dollars into the local currency there.

Oddly enough, gold, silver, and Bitcoin are generally easy to convert to local currencies wherever you go.

Maybe not so much what it is, but what perceptions are, and Vise and Mastercard are US companies..
Visa and Mastercard are simply credit agencies. They work in most currencies around the world, whether they are Rubles, Yuan, Rupees, Dollars, Yen, Euros, or pretty much anything else. They are not dollars, not do they standardize anything in dollars either. Their profit around the world is converted into dollars at the current exchange rate, since they are 'U.S.' companies. There are other credit companies. Russia is simply switching their banks to issue cards attached to UnionPay, a Chinese credit company (owned by the Chinese government). In other words, Putin's response to Visa and Mastercard bailing out is, 'Meh'.

Now it is even less possible for The Oligarchy (Biden and friends) to place sanctions on the Russian economy. Putin has actually gained power because of this.

Exposing that many people to think otherwise and with China pushing very hard to topple our throne with their currency I think the point above makes one question.
The idea of 'our throne of currency' is really just propaganda. There is no world fiat currency standard (not even the SDR yet, and I don't think it will be). There is no 'throne' to topple. Each nation accepts transactions in their own local currencies, and always have.

Gold is universally accepted. So is silver. These are hard currencies. They've been used for thousands of years for a reason. Bitcoin is pretty universally accepted wherever there is internet.

Gold is easy to check it's purity with simple equipment. Silver isn't worth as much, so most don't bother. Silver also corrodes (tarnishes). In a gold/silver based currency system, such as is the only legal tender in the United States, according to it's Constitution, silver is used for day to day purchases, while gold is used to store value and for major purchases. When these were used, people would put their money in the bank, just like today. The bank would issue a certificate of deposit, which also acted as a certificate to claim the gold back. People would often just trade using these certificates.

The word 'dollar' itself comes from the word 'tahler', a silver coin minted by the mining town Jachemstahl that was accepted at one time over most of Europe and even further. A dollar is actually a unit of weight. It was at one time set by the government to equal 1/20th of an ounce of fine gold.
That was all before FDR stole the gold from people and build Fort Knox to store the stolen gold in. Penalties for using gold at the time were very high, equivalent to about a $5 million fine today.

What FDR did was illegal. He got away with it because of the stresses of WW2, and that people were already trading using gold deposit certificates, effectively paper money.

Now, the 'dollar' (really just a Federal Reserve Note) has no backing, and the word 'dollar' is no longer a unit of weight at all.

We aren't the only ones with fiat currency. Every nation uses fiat currency, with the exception of Russia and Iraq (based on a gold standard). Each nation is doing what we are doing, printing money to keep the party going. It's a race to the bottom. Who will get there first? The world has never been here before.
 
HAHAHA. Bitcoin is not mined anywhere you fool. It's all a lie. It's more digital money backed by nothing.

correct - the term mine is a metaphor. - but to than ignore that this metaphor is a pretty good one as it uses actual labor and increases the supply - making it totally different than fiat currency shows you and into the night are just opposite side of the same retarded coin
 
That would be YOUR problem. Inversion fallacy (again).

Fallacy fallacy

The fallacy fallacy occurs whenever Into the Night ignores the argument and simply claims the other poster has committed a fallacy without explaining why the fallacy may have occurred.

In this case, Into the Night has claimed that a coin can created without a transaction but the the creator of Bitcoin states quite clearly that the coin is started (created) only when the first transaction occurs. Rather than addressing his obvious error Into the Night resorts to the way he always does as he runs away from his statements by simply claiming the other poster has committed a fallacy.

In his response, I predict ItN will simply claim I have committed another fallacy.
Let's see how he responds. Will he admit he was wrong?
Satoshi Nakamoto's paper can be found here:
https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
In the paper he explains how there is a sequence of hashes and how a bitcoin can only be created with a transaction.
 
Renowned Investor Jim Rogers Sees the End of the US Dollar — Says 'Washington Does Not Play Fair Anymore'

"Veteran investor Jim Rogers, who co-founded the Quantum Fund with billionaire investor George Soros, says that “what is happening with the U.S. dollar now is the end of the U.S. dollar.” He explained that “an international currency is supposed to be neutral but in Washington, they are now changing the rules,” emphasizing, “Washington does not play fair anymore.”

There are certain things that Jim and I agree on. Certain things that we don't.

Washington DC does not play fair. They rarely have. That's certainly nothing new!

The end of the U.S. dollar? Since there is no U.S. anymore, that's already happened. The end of the Federal Reserve Note? Maybe, but it will be a long slow death yet to come for it, with inflation all the way.
 
Fallacy fallacy

The fallacy fallacy occurs whenever Into the Night ignores the argument and simply claims the other poster has committed a fallacy without explaining why the fallacy may have occurred.

In this case, Into the Night has claimed that a coin can created without a transaction but the the creator of Bitcoin states quite clearly that the coin is started (created) only when the first transaction occurs. Rather than addressing his obvious error Into the Night resorts to the way he always does as he runs away from his statements by simply claiming the other poster has committed a fallacy.

In his response, I predict ItN will simply claim I have committed another fallacy.
Let's see how he responds. Will he admit he was wrong?
Satoshi Nakamoto's paper can be found here:
https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
In the paper he explains how there is a sequence of hashes and how a bitcoin can only be created with a transaction.

Mockery. Denial of logic. No argument presented.
 
Inflation here, and war involving a country responsible for mining so many precious metals over there, makes all the bad news good news for holders of precious metals, particularly palladium. It reached $3,169 an ounce today..

Palladium pulled back a little today but has doubled in the last few months. I read a report that Putin is stopping all russian exports!!. If true that should cause Pal to soar.
 
Renowned Investor Jim Rogers Sees the End of the US Dollar — Says 'Washington Does Not Play Fair Anymore'

"Veteran investor Jim Rogers, who co-founded the Quantum Fund with billionaire investor George Soros, says that “what is happening with the U.S. dollar now is the end of the U.S. dollar.” He explained that “an international currency is supposed to be neutral but in Washington, they are now changing the rules,” emphasizing, “Washington does not play fair anymore.”

Rogers has been saying the dollar is dead for 15 years. Eventually it will die but nobody knows when.
 
HAHAHAHA. You stupid ignorant jackass. That 21 million figure is just a PROMISE!!!! It can be changed at any time and will be.

Fascinating, you don't think you look like a stupid ignorant jackass. :laugh:

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I know that extracting gold from previously mined activity is not mining

I know that when we mine a bit coin, we increase the supply of bit coin - and the same is true of gold

I know you are a moron

Mining bitcoin is costly and power intensive. You are not increasing the supply of bitcoin. It is already set. You are merely extracting what is left. That is why it is called mining. :palm:
 
Mining bitcoin is costly and power intensive. You are not increasing the supply of bitcoin. It is already set. You are merely extracting what is left. That is why it is called mining. :palm:

until a coin is mined, it is not in the supply chain. so yes, mining a coin is the act that introduces it into the supply.

it is the same as all the gold that sits beneath the surface of the earth waiting to be mined. all the gold below the surface of the earth is set too - but mining it is what sets it free and increases the supply
 
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