Charging an electric vehicle still cheaper than filling a gas one. MAGA wets panties.

[Joe Capitalist]

https://insideevs.com/features/557987/ev-versus-gas-price-comparison/


Charging an electric car will likely cost significantly less than filling up an ICE car with gasoline or diesel.
But, how much can you save, and why is it cheaper to run on electrons than liquid fuel?

Overall Efficiency

Unlike internal combustion cars, electric cars have the upper hand because they use far less energy. According to the Department of Energy (DOE), a typical gasoline car would have an efficiency (energy to the wheels) of less than 25%. This means that the other 75% of energy would be lost as heat or used in other internal combustion engine systems. Disregarding the benefits of regenerative braking, electric cars have an efficiency of over 65%. The other 35% is energy lost in charging and drive system losses (battery system cooling and heat).

Regenerative Braking

In traditional non-hybrid cars, deceleration is primarily done with their friction brakes. This means that lots of kinetic energy is simply wasted as heat. In hybrids and EVs, most braking is done through capturing kinetic energy and transferring it as electrical energy back into the battery pack. With this braking method, electric cars can recuperate energy back into the battery rather than wasting the energy as heat into the surroundings. According to the DOE, a typical EV's total efficiency (factoring in regen) is around 90% in the combined cycle.

Conclusion

Each year, an electric car like the Leaf could save you $822 in fueling costs over a typical gasoline-powered sedan. In four years of ownership, this value could jump to $3,288, and in eight, you could save $6,576. With rising gasoline prices and an increased emphasis on electric vehicle incentives, now's the time to make the switch!

 

[Yakuda]

https://insideevs.com/features/557987/ev-versus-gas-price-comparison/


Charging an electric car will likely cost significantly less than filling up an ICE car with gasoline or diesel.
But, how much can you save, and why is it cheaper to run on electrons than liquid fuel?

Overall Efficiency

Unlike internal combustion cars, electric cars have the upper hand because they use far less energy. According to the Department of Energy (DOE), a typical gasoline car would have an efficiency (energy to the wheels) of less than 25%. This means that the other 75% of energy would be lost as heat or used in other internal combustion engine systems. Disregarding the benefits of regenerative braking, electric cars have an efficiency of over 65%. The other 35% is energy lost in charging and drive system losses (battery system cooling and heat).

Regenerative Braking

In traditional non-hybrid cars, deceleration is primarily done with their friction brakes. This means that lots of kinetic energy is simply wasted as heat. In hybrids and EVs, most braking is done through capturing kinetic energy and transferring it as electrical energy back into the battery pack. With this braking method, electric cars can recuperate energy back into the battery rather than wasting the energy as heat into the surroundings. According to the DOE, a typical EV's total efficiency (factoring in regen) is around 90% in the combined cycle.

Conclusion

Each year, an electric car like the Leaf could save you $822 in fueling costs over a typical gasoline-powered sedan. In four years of ownership, this value could jump to $3,288, and in eight, you could save $6,576. With rising gasoline prices and an increased emphasis on electric vehicle incentives, now's the time to make the switch!

How far can you get on a charge vs a tank of gas. Cost is irrelevant if it takes me 3 days to go 300 miles.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

The higher price, generally $10,000 + over an ICE vehicle makes electric cars unaffordable to most people to begin with. And, when gas prices plummet again--and they will--battery cars will become even more unattractive.

 

[zymurgy]

The higher price, generally $10,000 + over an ICE vehicle makes electric cars unaffordable to most people to begin with. And, when gas prices plummet again--and they will--battery cars will become even more unattractive.

I bought my daughter a hybrid fusion with $8000 of hail damage - factory warranty still. hell of a good deal until the second daughter totaled it and got screwed on the buy out deal

 

[Into the Night]

Charging an electric car will likely cost significantly less than filling up an ICE car with gasoline or diesel.

Not really. Also, filling up a gasoline car takes only a few minutes, rather than the hours it takes to 'fill up' an EV.

But, how much can you save, and why is it cheaper to run on electrons than liquid fuel?[/SIZE][/B]

It isn't.

Overall Efficiency

Nope. Efficiency means nothing when you're sittin' on the charger for hours.

Unlike internal combustion cars, electric cars have the upper hand because they use far less energy.

Nope. Watts are watts. It takes the same energy to move the same weight the same distance. See classical mechanics (you know...science).

According to the Department of Energy (DOE), a typical gasoline car would have an efficiency (energy to the wheels) of less than 25%.

Wrong number. It is more like 40% these days. It varies considerably from car to car.

This means that the other 75% of energy would be lost as heat or used in other internal combustion engine systems.

Attempted proof by randU.

Disregarding the benefits of regenerative braking, electric cars have an efficiency of over 65%.

There is no 'efficiency' for electric motors.

The other 35% is energy lost in charging and drive system losses (battery system cooling and heat).

There is no energy lost for a gasoline car to refuel.

Regenerative Braking

In traditional non-hybrid cars, deceleration is primarily done with their friction brakes.

Hybrid cars require gasoline. No. deceleration is primarily done with engine compression.

This means that lots of kinetic energy is simply wasted as heat.

True of both cars.

In hybrids and EVs, most braking is done through capturing kinetic energy and transferring it as electrical energy back into the battery pack.

Which must be cooled. Waste heat. Also, regenerative braking will not fully stop the car. You still need regular friction brakes.

With this braking method, electric cars can recuperate energy back into the battery rather than wasting the energy as heat into the surroundings.

Battery heat must be discharged into the surroundings as waste heat.

According to the DOE, a typical EV's total efficiency (factoring in regen) is around 90% in the combined cycle.

There is no efficiency for electric motors.

Conclusion

Each year, an electric car like the Leaf could save you $822 in fueling costs over a typical gasoline-powered sedan. In four years of ownership, this value could jump to $3,288, and in eight, you could save $6,576. With rising gasoline prices and an increased emphasis on electric vehicle incentives, now's the time to make the switch!

Manufactured data. You sound like a salesman.

 

[Into the Night]

How far can you get on a charge vs a tank of gas. Cost is irrelevant if it takes me 3 days to go 300 miles.

Both the EV and the ICE have a similar range on a single 'fill up'.

 

[Into the Night]

The higher price, generally $10,000 + over an ICE vehicle makes electric cars unaffordable to most people to begin with. And, when gas prices plummet again--and they will--battery cars will become even more unattractive.

He doesn't understand that inflation affects the price of everything. Gas, oil, batteries, ICE cars, and EV cars.
As they say...it's all relative.

 

[Nordberg]

The higher price, generally $10,000 + over an ICE vehicle makes electric cars unaffordable to most people to begin with. And, when gas prices plummet again--and they will--battery cars will become even more unattractive.

They are not higher priced. They start in the 20 to 30 k area. Did you spend less on your huge gas guzzler? Then you spend tons of gas, oil, and repairs.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

They are not higher priced. They start in the 20 to 30 k area. Did you spend less on your huge gas guzzler? Then you spend tons of gas, oil, and repairs.

I drive a truck for a number of reasons. A car will not fill my needs for a vehicle.

 

[Nordberg]

I drive a truck for a number of reasons. A car will not fill my needs for a vehicle.

So it is all about you. There are electric trucks. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a29890843/full-electric-pickup-trucks/ They will fill your needs better.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

So it is all about you. There are electric trucks. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a29890843/full-electric-pickup-trucks/ They will fill your needs better.

No, they won't. One reason is I often drive to locations over 150 miles away that have no power available. Thus a battery vehicle won't work for me even if I wanted one. Towing is another issue. You lose anything up to 40% range on a battery vehicle towing. If I tow my backhoe and trailer (combined weight of about 3 tons) I lose that sort of range on a battery vehicle. So that doesn't work in my favor either. I can always carry more gasoline.

 

[ExpressLane]

https://insideevs.com/features/557987/ev-versus-gas-price-comparison/


Charging an electric car will likely cost significantly less than filling up an ICE car with gasoline or diesel.
But, how much can you save, and why is it cheaper to run on electrons than liquid fuel?

Overall Efficiency

Unlike internal combustion cars, electric cars have the upper hand because they use far less energy. According to the Department of Energy (DOE), a typical gasoline car would have an efficiency (energy to the wheels) of less than 25%. This means that the other 75% of energy would be lost as heat or used in other internal combustion engine systems. Disregarding the benefits of regenerative braking, electric cars have an efficiency of over 65%. The other 35% is energy lost in charging and drive system losses (battery system cooling and heat).

Regenerative Braking

In traditional non-hybrid cars, deceleration is primarily done with their friction brakes. This means that lots of kinetic energy is simply wasted as heat. In hybrids and EVs, most braking is done through capturing kinetic energy and transferring it as electrical energy back into the battery pack. With this braking method, electric cars can recuperate energy back into the battery rather than wasting the energy as heat into the surroundings. According to the DOE, a typical EV's total efficiency (factoring in regen) is around 90% in the combined cycle.

Conclusion

Each year, an electric car like the Leaf could save you $822 in fueling costs over a typical gasoline-powered sedan. In four years of ownership, this value could jump to $3,288, and in eight, you could save $6,576. With rising gasoline prices and an increased emphasis on electric vehicle incentives, now's the time to make the switch!

I hope a minority member steals your EV and then a Woke DA lets him off with a slap on the wrist. Or better yet the defunded police don't have the resources to find your EV.

 

[BartenderElite]

I always find it strange how vehemently opposed the right is to anything but the status quo on fossil fuels.

 

[Yakuda]

Both the EV and the ICE have a similar range on a single 'fill up'.

I read you can get 300-400 miles out of charge I also read that all the top 10 gas vehicles go over 500 mules on a tank of gas. the tipp goes most 600

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Last summer California told the owners of electric cars not to charge their batteries because it would cause a brown out........at the time fewer than 1% of people in California had electric cars......think how bad it would have been if that went up to 2%.........

 

[Joe Capitalist]

They are not higher priced. They start in the 20 to 30 k area. Did you spend less on your huge gas guzzler? Then you spend tons of gas, oil, and repairs.

It's funny how the far right still uses their Electric Vehicle sound bites from five years ago, even though they no longer apply.

The EV revolution is here and there's no stopping it. Especially with higher gas prices. In five years, there'll be more EV cars than ICE cars and gas stations will have more charging stations than pumps.
And MAGA is peeing in their panties over it. BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!

 

[ExpressLane]

https://insideevs.com/features/557987/ev-versus-gas-price-comparison/


Charging an electric car will likely cost significantly less than filling up an ICE car with gasoline or diesel.
But, how much can you save, and why is it cheaper to run on electrons than liquid fuel?

Overall Efficiency

Unlike internal combustion cars, electric cars have the upper hand because they use far less energy. According to the Department of Energy (DOE), a typical gasoline car would have an efficiency (energy to the wheels) of less than 25%. This means that the other 75% of energy would be lost as heat or used in other internal combustion engine systems. Disregarding the benefits of regenerative braking, electric cars have an efficiency of over 65%. The other 35% is energy lost in charging and drive system losses (battery system cooling and heat).

Regenerative Braking

In traditional non-hybrid cars, deceleration is primarily done with their friction brakes. This means that lots of kinetic energy is simply wasted as heat. In hybrids and EVs, most braking is done through capturing kinetic energy and transferring it as electrical energy back into the battery pack. With this braking method, electric cars can recuperate energy back into the battery rather than wasting the energy as heat into the surroundings. According to the DOE, a typical EV's total efficiency (factoring in regen) is around 90% in the combined cycle.

Conclusion

Each year, an electric car like the Leaf could save you $822 in fueling costs over a typical gasoline-powered sedan. In four years of ownership, this value could jump to $3,288, and in eight, you could save $6,576. With rising gasoline prices and an increased emphasis on electric vehicle incentives, now's the time to make the switch!

Can your Tesla pull my 5th wheel?

 

[Nordberg]

Can your Tesla pull my 5th wheel?

Sure. Electric trucks have far stronger pulling capacities too.Electric is the future. Companies are rushing to electric vehicles to get better vehicles. The standard EV pulls 3500 lbs. The Ford Ruivian claims 11,00 lbs pulling capacity. The Tesla cyber truck promises 14,000 lbs.

 

[Into the Night]

They are not higher priced. They start in the 20 to 30 k area.

The Tesla Model 3 starts at $44,000 for the base model. It cannot carry nearly the load my cars do.

Did you spend less on your huge gas guzzler?

Which one?
I spent $12k on one and $25k on another (a high end model) and $14k on another and $13k on another.

Then you spend tons of gas, oil, and repairs.

I do my own repairs when necessary (rarely is) and all my own maintenance. All cars require maintenance, even EVs.
Oil is cheap. It change it approx twice a year. Gas and diesel oil are no more expensive than what you will wind up paying for keeping an EV charged for the same distance traveled.
Oh...and I don't have risk of battery fires like an EV has. Replacing the starter battery in a car is about $120. Replacing the battery on an EV (Tesla used as an example) is approx $25,000.
I can fuel a car in a few minutes. I don't have to wait hours and hours for an EV to charge. I can haul more than any Tesla too.

 

[Into the Night]

So it is all about you. There are electric trucks. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a29890843/full-electric-pickup-trucks/ They will fill your needs better.

Who are YOU to say the fill his needs better??? HE is the one best suited to decide what he wants to drive. YOU are not!

No. Electric pickup trucks are almost useless as trucks. They can't haul what a gas or diesel truck can haul anywhere near the same distance. EV trucks are EXPENSIVE too. The Ford electric F-150, for example, isn't going to do well in the marketplace. You had better take another look at what is on the road today!