what is Putin's endgame?
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Maybe he has a brain tumor
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Russia would wipe the map with India.
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Russia's army in ranked Number 2 and India is number 4
Their military is on par with NATO if smaller.
Russian tanks and missiles are among the best as are their other armor
Their AF:
Russia’s Modernized Air Force Is Smaller But More Capable—Here’s What It’s Procuring Next
https://www.forbes.com/sites/sebast...eres-what-its-procuring-next/?sh=593807b46e3b
Links? Salty Walty doesn't know what links are for.
Russia is capable of going up against NATO. India cannot.
Russia hasn't the capacity of NATO,but it has a lot of the quality, and better offensive and defensive missiles
The EU and NATO are part of it, but more importantly meeting western norms as far as a liberal (free, not left wing) society, and ending corruption. Putin says Russia cannot have western freedom, and is condemned to corruption. If Ukraine can do it, then Russia looks bad.
The possibility of EU and NATO membership was the carrot to try to get Ukraine to clean up its act. The actual cleaning up is far more important than the membership. And the cleaning up is far more scary to Putin than the membership.
If Putin can make Ukraine a mess, then it is not a role model for Russians, and he can stay in power. When on the defenses we had against Putin invading was that an occupied Ukraine could easily be a Vietnam or Afghanistan, just a mess that keeps killing soldiers. The problem with that defense was it suits Putin's purposes. He can honestly tell the Russian people that they might be better off with a despot than being occupied by a despot like Ukraine.
The reason for Putin's invasion is Ukraine's progress, and what it was doing to his chances of survival.
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The US would not let Russia defeat NATO.
Russia certainly has more nuclear weapons than India. India is pulling out ahead in aircraft carriers. India has a larger economy. They both have similar problems with inertia holding them back from progress.
I doubt Russia could get its forces over the Himalayas to destroy India. And I doubt India could get its forces over the Himalayas to destroy Russia... They are both regional powers, not global superpowers.
Who told you that?
Right now, only the USA can project a sizable military force anywhere in the world. In a decade or two, China hopes to be able to also. India is moving in that direction also. Russia.... Not so much.
What makes Russia more powerful than India is the region it is a power in, and not that it is a global superpower.
Ukraine isnt even a democarcy now .Poroshenko was tossed in jail and
Thousands of the world's largest media criticize Zelensky for closing down 112 Ukraine,
https://112.international/politics/...g-down-112-ukraine-newsone-and-zik-58881.html
Ukraine operates on corruption. the one good thing out of this shitstorm might be a non-corrupt
imposed Russian puppet government,,might,,corruption is the cultural norm, but then again so is Russia
i cant follow this run on idea
Progress to what? militarization by Biden? ending corruption? NATO expansion? what?
Or, 2 brain aneurysms, like bungling Biden?
Say, didn't Hunter's older bro die from a brain tumor?
India could not get troops to confront NATO, because it is a regional power, and not in NATO's region. But I would not like NATO's chances invading either Russia or India.
China and India are developing these supersonic orbiting and gliding weapons that appear to be the systems of the future. A lot of Russia's technology is just what is left over from the fall of the Soviet Union, 30 years ago.
The US is part of NATO, so to defeat NATO, Russia would have to defeat the US, along with the rest of NATO. Russia could kill a lot of Americans with nuclear weapons, but could not win a war.
first off you are forgetting about hypersonic weapons. and Russian superweapons.
That's where China got the tech from on their recent launch
Russia leads in development except for China's anti satellite capability,and gives it some world reach
It's navy of course is an afterthought. but wars are regional except for world wars
I see no ability of India to project a large scale force outside of it region -it certainly is not a superpower like Russia is
Well, if trump successfully pulls the US out of NATO, maybe Putin could defeat the rest of NATO. But as long as the US is part of NATO, we can not be defeated by just Russia. NATO is made up of most of the advanced countries. Russia is one country that is collapsing under its own corruption.