More blatant lies from Fox

T. A. Gardner said:
I think that all depends on what you measure as healthy.

The wallethub site favors big cities based on their availability of healthcare, restaurants, number of gyms, and established parks. Hardly an accurate measure of the population's health...
Can't say what metrics Bongino used for his story, and they aren't given here.
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The metrics Bongino used are shown in the graphic. It cites wallethub in the corner. It turns out FOX doesn't know the difference between healthy and unhealthy. Then FOX also thinks Irvine, CA is the same thing as Iriving, TX.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
I went to the wallethub site. They used four metrics, which I listed, to make their list. I showed these are hardly the be-all, end-all, of what makes a place healthy to live. In fact, I'd call three of them damn near irrelevant (restaurants, gyms, and parks). These are no measure of how healthy a urban population will be. For example, how does a population that eats out all the time--particularly if they regularly get fast food--compared to one that eats home prepared meals? Or, a population that goes to the gym a couple times a week for an hour or two to one that does considerable physical labor, like many rural populations do, daily? Raw land or wilderness versus parks, same thing.

These metrics are meaningless, or nearly so.
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Bongino uses wallethub. You try to argue that you don't know what metrics he used and that any metrics are meaningless.

Not only did Bongino lie about what wallethub said. It seem you are going to lie about what Bongino said.
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
The metrics Bongino used are shown in the graphic. It cites wallethub in the corner. It turns out FOX doesn't know the difference between healthy and unhealthy. Then FOX also thinks Irvine, CA is the same thing as Iriving, TX.
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Well, as I pointed out, wallethub's list is an insane and near irrelevant way of measuring "healthy." Counting the number of hospitals, restaurants, gyms, and parks a town or city has is of infinitesimal significance to how healthy the population there is.
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
Bongino uses wallethub. You try to argue that you don't know what metrics he used and that any metrics are meaningless.

Not only did Bongino lie about what wallethub said. It seem you are going to lie about what Bongino said.
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I didn't link the two because that wasn't made obvious in the OP. Having had that pointed out, I adjusted my position to reflect that new (to me) information. The metrics Bongino used were obviously inappropriate and wrong to the message / story as he delivered it. On the other hand, it doesn't change that the wallethub metrics are asininely stupid to begin with. Why anyone would use them for measuring the healthiness of a city is beyond me.
 
reagansghost said:
red states suck up more welfare than blue states, by a mile

a fact no cultist can face

ordinarily to be stupid is to be poor
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You are correct. The Red States are the poorest/dumbest.

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T. A. Gardner said:
More proof of what I stated. How you define "healthy" makes all the difference. We don't know what the metrics Bongino used were so there's no way to compare.
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If you go by BMI Denver is healthy, if you go by murder rate or robbery rate it starts to fall down the list.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Well, as I pointed out, wallethub's list is an insane and near irrelevant way of measuring "healthy." Counting the number of hospitals, restaurants, gyms, and parks a town or city has is of infinitesimal significance to how healthy the population there is.
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LOL. Nice diversion from the lies Fox told. Too bad it doesn't help your argument by relying on diversions. You could have simply agreed that Fox lied.
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
LOL. Nice diversion from the lies Fox told. Too bad it doesn't help your argument by relying on diversions. You could have simply agreed that Fox lied.
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This was side commentary taken out of the larger context of my other posts. I agreed once I knew Bongino used that list for his story that it was fucked up. I also pointed out that the list's composition was fucked up for other reasons as well. Is that clearer?
 
T. A. Gardner said:
This was side commentary taken out of the larger context of my other posts. I agreed once I knew Bongino used that list for his story that it was fucked up. I also pointed out that the list's composition was fucked up for other reasons as well. Is that clearer?
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Fox lies. You try to deflect from their lies.
Yeah. Real clear.
 
Damocles said:
If you go by BMI Denver is healthy, if you go by murder rate or robbery rate it starts to fall down the list.
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Healthy people can get robbed or murdered just as easily as unhealthy people, so your comparison doesn't really factor in. "Healthy" in itself is subjective, but as I've pointed out to T.A. that's not the point of this thread.
 
Mr.Badguy said:
Healthy people can get robbed or murdered just as easily as unhealthy people, so your comparison doesn't really factor in. "Healthy" in itself is subjective, but as I've pointed out to T.A. that's not the point of this thread.
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However healthy people are more likely to be robbed in Denver, etc. than they are in places where the laws are taken more seriously was the point. The different way that folks are measuring "health"... Being a victim of violent crime is not "healthy" by some folks' measure.
 
Mr.Badguy said:
Healthy people can get robbed or murdered just as easily as unhealthy people, so your comparison doesn't really factor in. "Healthy" in itself is subjective, but as I've pointed out to T.A. that's not the point of this thread.
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No, it's not, but it is related. Bongino's story was crap based on a stupid choice of sources. But that source was also crap in and of itself. Since it was presented as part of the OP, it became fair game to include a trashing of it along with Bongino's story.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Well, as I pointed out, wallethub's list is an insane and near irrelevant way of measuring "healthy." Counting the number of hospitals, restaurants, gyms, and parks a town or city has is of infinitesimal significance to how healthy the population there is.
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That isn't the topic.

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T. A. Gardner said:
To which I agreed, while not being quite so blunt about it. I then pointed out that the list was absurd on its own too. Nothing wrong with that.
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Yeah I understand. At least try to understand the OP first. I've made the same errors many times. Sometimes I create a separate thread.
 
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