Is the West Becoming Pagan Again?

Cypress said:
My two cents is that all of us are products of history and geography. History lies deep within us, even if we don't conciuosly realize it.

North America and Europe is the offspring of 2,000 years of culture which germinated in the ethical, cultural, and social traditions of the Abrahamistic faiths.

Naturally, it has been seasoned at the margins with a little eastern and south Asian thought, particularly as we incorporate more immigrants.

But, in this country, whether one is Christian or not, the vast majority of citizens have either directly or indirectly been influenced by the Judeo-Christian culture, ethics, and history this society has been stewing in for two thousand years. Even if only in the most oblique way.

I do not see us reverting to the values, ethics, or culture of Greco-Roman civilization, Aztec civilization, or archaic Celtic civilization.
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Where do the roots of prosperity gospel come from?
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
I'm surprised that they used the term "pagan," which would indicate a religious belief other than Christianity. Instead, more and more younger ppl are secular and/or atheist/agnostic. I am pagan; that is a belief system of its own and probably not what the author meant to say.

I should probably read the article before further comment. lol
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Yeah. I think 'Pagan' is some word the Religious Types made up to describe people that believe something other than what THEY believe in.
 
BidenPresident said:
They never went away.
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No, human sacrifice, animal sacrifice, slavery, and heroism in battle are no longer widely accepted social and cultural values.

The west does owe a debt to Greek philosophy, drama, math, and political theory.
 
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BidenPresident said:
Essential Meaning of pagan
1: a person who worships many gods or goddesses or the earth or nature : a person whose religion is paganism
2old-fashioned + often offensive : a person who is not religious or whose religion is not Christianity, Judaism, or Islam
Full Definition of pagan (Entry 1 of 2)
1: HEATHEN sense 1
especially : a follower of a polytheistic religion (as in ancient Rome)
2: one who has little or no religion and who delights in sensual pleasures and material goods : an irreligious or hedonistic person

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pagan
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--->" a person who is not religious or whose religion is not Christianity, Judaism, or Islam".
--->"one who has little or no religion and who delights in sensual pleasures and material goods : an irreligious or hedonistic person"

Yeah. That's more like it.
 
Mr Apollyon said:
To me Atheist should refer to those that make a conscious effort to believe there is no God.
What America has is a majority that doesn't spend a bit of time thinking about if there is a God or not.
Americans are self absorbed secular creatures caught up in American secular culture.There search is for pleasure and self satisfaction .
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This is probably true.
 
Cypress said:
My two cents is that all of us are products of history and geography. History lies deep within us, even if we don't conciuosly realize it.

North America and Europe is the offspring of 2,000 years of culture which germinated in the ethical, cultural, and social traditions of the Abrahamistic faiths.

Naturally, it has been seasoned at the margins with a little eastern and south Asian thought, particularly as we incorporate more immigrants.

But, in this country, whether one is Christian or not, the vast majority of citizens have either directly or indirectly been influenced by the Judeo-Christian culture, ethics, and history this society has been stewing in for two thousand years. Even if only in the most oblique way.

I do not see us reverting to the values, ethics, or culture of Greco-Roman civilization, Aztec civilization, or archaic Celtic civilization.
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Ever notice how many Buildings in Washington DC look like Rome? The Washington Monument looks like an Egyptian Obelisk? I didn't think so.
 
Jack said:
--->" a person who is not religious or whose religion is not Christianity, Judaism, or Islam".
--->"one who has little or no religion and who delights in sensual pleasures and material goods : an irreligious or hedonistic person"

Yeah. That's more like it.
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Yes, those are the more common definitions of "pagan."
 
Jack said:
Ever notice how many Buildings in Washington DC look like Rome? The Washington Monument looks like an Egyptian Obelisk? I didn't think so.
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I do not know what post you read.

The supreme court building is architecture.

My post spoke to cultural values, ethics, social norms.

What we owe the Greco-Roman world is art, mathematics, architecture, philosophy, law, and political theory.

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...st-Becoming-Pagan-Again&p=4867135#post4867135

Aka, intellectual traditions.

Cultural and social norms are what you live on a day to day basis

The towering intellectual achievements of Euclid's Elements or Plato's Republic are not the garden variety cultural norms you live on a regular basis.
 
Cypress said:
I do not know what post you read.

The supreme court building is architecture.

My post spoke to cultural values, ethics, social norms.

What we owe the Greco-Roman world is art, mathematics, architecture, philosophy, law, and political theory.

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...st-Becoming-Pagan-Again&p=4867135#post4867135

Aka, intellectual traditions.

Cultural and social norms are what you live on a day to day basis

The towering intellectual achievements of Euclid's Elements or Plato's Republic are not the garden variety cultural norms you live on a regular basis.
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This sits on top of the US Capitol. Does it look 'Christian' to you?

"Statue of Freedom is a classical female figure with long, flowing hair wearing a helmet with a crest composed of an eagle’s head and feathers. She wears a classical dress secured with a brooch inscribed "U.S." Over it is draped a heavy, flowing, toga-like robe fringed with fur and decorative balls. Her right hand rests upon the hilt of a sheathed sword wrapped in a scarf; in her left hand she holds a laurel wreath of victory and the shield of the United States with 13 stripes."
https://www.aoc.gov/explore-capitol-campus/art/statue-freedom
 
Cypress said:
I do not know what post you read.

The supreme court building is architecture.

My post spoke to cultural values, ethics, social norms.

What we owe the Greco-Roman world is art, mathematics, architecture, philosophy, law, and political theory.

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...st-Becoming-Pagan-Again&p=4867135#post4867135

Aka, intellectual traditions.

Cultural and social norms are what you live on a day to day basis

The towering intellectual achievements of Euclid's Elements or Plato's Republic are not the garden variety cultural norms you live on a regular basis.
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Here's a 'God'. Minerva, Goddess of Knowledge. At the Library of Congress.


"Library of Congress Minerva Mosaic in the Great Hall of the Thomas Jefferson Building, Washington, D.C. digital file from original"
https://www.loc.gov/resource/highsm.12512/
 
Cypress said:
I do not know what post you read.

The supreme court building is architecture.

My post spoke to cultural values, ethics, social norms.

What we owe the Greco-Roman world is art, mathematics, architecture, philosophy, law, and political theory.

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...st-Becoming-Pagan-Again&p=4867135#post4867135

Aka, intellectual traditions.

Cultural and social norms are what you live on a day to day basis

The towering intellectual achievements of Euclid's Elements or Plato's Republic are not the garden variety cultural norms you live on a regular basis.
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You can view her as you stand in the middles of The Zodiac.

"Great Hall. View from above of the zodiac in the marble floor. Library of Congress Thomas Jefferson Building, Washington, D.C."
https://www.loc.gov/resource/highsm.01954/
 
Owl woman is an elderly pagan whore, yeah, we know that already. She's also a freak of nature and shouldn't even be included in any statistic or any other generalizations.

I consider OP


Besides that, why would you suppose jesus would sound just like ji-zeus(marry zeus) in the language of the people that supposedly killed the guy?

So the only son of the: all powerful, vengeful, jealous, one god, was just accidentally named after what sounds exactly like "marry zeus?" The faggot god of those faggot people that eventually kill him?

Single question conjugated with two question marks.

Looks like a pretty damn big plot hole if you ask me.

So the question is, when was Christianity, NOT PAGAN?
 
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