like rosenbaum with his crazy threats to kill? or skateboard dude trying to crack kyles skull? or grosskreutz pointing a handgun at kyle?
Yes, You are not allowed to Taunt someone into attacking you, then use self-defense when you kill them.
hung or not guilty is the obvious outcome
you can't find 12 people anywhere that would convict based on the evidence provided
they are likely discussing how this ever went to trial as they review the lack of evidence.
If you think there is a clear answer from this jury, you are naïve. I guarantee you they are not discussing anything but the verdict, those people want this over with.
Kyle did not "provoke" anyone. He was attacked by criminals with records and he defended himself as the constitutions allows.
Wrong, but you go with that if it comforts you.
"Prosecutor Thomas Binger attacked the self-defense argument by arguing that Rittenhouse provoked conflict by showing up with his rifle. Binger retrieved Rittenhouse’s rifle — kept for much of the trial in a white box behind the defense table — and demonstrated how he said Rittenhouse wielded it recklessly and menacingly that night.
"He repeatedly showed the jury drone video he said depicted Rittenhouse pointing the weapon at demonstrators, saying that was what led to a chain reaction of deadly events.
“This is a guy who came with special bullets and a gun, who came up to Kenosha with a gun to shoot someone,” said Lopez, summarizing what he called the thrust of Binger’s closing. “I think the prosecutor effectively made that point.”"
https://apnews.com/article/kyle-rittenhouse-trial-kenosha-46770144a2673b7e8414dfc0c5aff9a9
If I was in that room, I would be asking the other 11 how the prosecution can claim the first person shot was not asking to be shot. it was close range, and he was clearly the aggressor through out
They may be more worried about the politics and optics of their decision than making one too...
you accusing anyone else of being naive is rich
you are king of the short bus around here
Wrong, but you go with that if it comforts you.
"Prosecutor Thomas Binger attacked the self-defense argument by arguing that Rittenhouse provoked conflict by showing up with his rifle. Binger retrieved Rittenhouse’s rifle — kept for much of the trial in a white box behind the defense table — and demonstrated how he said Rittenhouse wielded it recklessly and menacingly that night.
"He repeatedly showed the jury drone video he said depicted Rittenhouse pointing the weapon at demonstrators, saying that was what led to a chain reaction of deadly events.
“This is a guy who came with special bullets and a gun, who came up to Kenosha with a gun to shoot someone,” said Lopez, summarizing what he called the thrust of Binger’s closing. “I think the prosecutor effectively made that point.”"
https://apnews.com/article/kyle-rittenhouse-trial-kenosha-46770144a2673b7e8414dfc0c5aff9a9
The prosecutor would have never allowed you in that room.
you accusing anyone else of being naive is rich
you are king of the short bus around here
Wrong, but you go with that if it comforts you.
"Prosecutor Thomas Binger attacked the self-defense argument by arguing that Rittenhouse provoked conflict by showing up with his rifle. Binger retrieved Rittenhouse’s rifle — kept for much of the trial in a white box behind the defense table — and demonstrated how he said Rittenhouse wielded it recklessly and menacingly that night.
"He repeatedly showed the jury drone video he said depicted Rittenhouse pointing the weapon at demonstrators, saying that was what led to a chain reaction of deadly events.
“This is a guy who came with special bullets and a gun, who came up to Kenosha with a gun to shoot someone,” said Lopez, summarizing what he called the thrust of Binger’s closing. “I think the prosecutor effectively made that point.”"
https://apnews.com/article/kyle-rittenhouse-trial-kenosha-46770144a2673b7e8414dfc0c5aff9a9
He went there to murder people.
You can claim whatever craziness you want, but the jury is likely considering what consequences their decision might have on subsequent events-- threats on their lives, rioting, etc.--and that shouldn't be.
At the very least, he went there to taunt people.
"Special bullets?" What kind were those? Armor piercing? Incendiary? Tracer? Hollow point? Explosive?