The Republican Party’s violence problem

That's the difference, Earl. Democrats don't identify with the thugs in BLM or at all with ANTIFA. Democrats do deny that the violence in the streets was fairly representative of BLM but they don't deny that the riots happened or try to make them something other than what they were, the way Republicans cowardly sugar coat Jan. 6.

We can also agree that the terrorists who attacked our Capitol in Jan. were disappointed and angry that their guy didn't win, just like we were disappointed and angry when Clinton didn't win in 2016. But unlike the Cult, WE didn't attack the Capitol and try to install her as Queen.
 
We can also agree that the terrorists who attacked our Capitol in Jan. were disappointed and angry that their guy didn't win, just like we were disappointed and angry when Clinton didn't win in 2016. But unlike the Cult, WE didn't attack the Capitol and try to install her as Queen.

Agreed. As several on this forum have posted; they believe the results of the election are false since their guy lost so now they want to overthrow the country with violence, kill anyone who disagrees and then install their Leader as President-for-Life.

I think it's very important that most Americans be ready to defend themselves against RW terrorism. The DHS agrees that domestic terrorists are one of our most dire threats.
 
Buck stops with Trump. He ordered it.

He also refused to stop it when asked. I don't know what's going on in all the RW heads in Washington, but appearances aside, I strongly doubt very many in Congress want Trump to get away with this.
 
When you look at the origins of fascism in Germany you see it originated in the lower middle class. People who felt left out of society but also did not feel capable of learning skills to make themselves valuable.

This isn't true. Those that led the fascist factions and parties were middle class or upper middle class. They weren't blue collar workers which constitute the lower middle class. The leadership were reasonably well educated in many instances, some were academics. They flocked to fascism because they felt society was keeping them down from rising socially higher. Yes, they felt that society didn't appreciate them, but they had skills they brought to the table too.
 
This isn't true. Those that led the fascist factions and parties were middle class or upper middle class. They weren't blue collar workers which constitute the lower middle class. The leadership were reasonably well educated in many instances, some were academics. They flocked to fascism because they felt society was keeping them down from rising socially higher. Yes, they felt that society didn't appreciate them, but they had skills they brought to the table too.

you are agreeing with me. thanks
 
Appearance is everything.
Disagreed as anyone who knows the difference between cover and concealment plus the effective use of camouflage.

The bottom line here is that vast majority of those in Congress do not take their oaths seriously. Their loyalty is either to their party or themselves.

The Republicans are no different. The vast majority of them are giving lip-service to Trump, not saying anything bad about Trump, but not doing a damn thing to stop what happens to him outside of protecting their own party loyalties.
 
you are agreeing with me. thanks

They weren't "lower middle class." That's certain. They're the same sort that always lead revolutions: Disaffected middle and upper middle class persons who have more than an average level of education and intellect but cannot break into the upper class due to background, lack of connections, or some combination of other reasons that hold them back.

The lower middle class, or working class, aren't the ones that lead revolutions. They may go along with a revolution if they see some advantage in doing so, but they're typically the least likely to upset the apple cart. It is the unskilled worker, and lower class that the leaders of a revolution get to do their dirty work. These people too are disaffected by their status in society. They erroneously think that society owes them something much like the leadership of the revolution does. The only difference is they're too stupid and lazy to do much on their own without being prodded by those leading things.
 
They weren't "lower middle class." That's certain. They're the same sort that always lead revolutions: Disaffected middle and upper middle class persons who have more than an average level of education and intellect but cannot break into the upper class due to background, lack of connections, or some combination of other reasons that hold them back.

The lower middle class, or working class, aren't the ones that lead revolutions. They may go along with a revolution if they see some advantage in doing so, but they're typically the least likely to upset the apple cart. It is the unskilled worker, and lower class that the leaders of a revolution get to do their dirty work. These people too are disaffected by their status in society. They erroneously think that society owes them something much like the leadership of the revolution does. The only difference is they're too stupid and lazy to do much on their own without being prodded by those leading things.


Lower middle class was the base for German fascism.
 
Lower middle class was the base for German fascism.

The leadership wasn't lower middle class. Even the followers weren't generally part of this group. The lower middle class consists of semi-skilled and skilled blue collar workers and artisans. These weren't your mindless factory worker or general laborer that made up much of the early fascist following. Your typical Meister (Journeyman) wanted nothing to do with the fascists.
 
We can also agree that the terrorists who attacked our Capitol in Jan. were disappointed and angry that their guy didn't win, just like we were disappointed and angry when Clinton didn't win in 2016. But unlike the Cult, WE didn't attack the Capitol and try to install her as Queen.

Something else Jan 6 deniers like Earl should think about is that by falsifying that day with sugarcoat they defend it; by defending it they take ownership of it, and what they own then is the first attack on the national government since the Civil War.
 
Something else Jan 6 deniers like Earl should think about is that by falsifying that day with sugarcoat they defend it; by defending it they take ownership of it, and what they own then is the first attack on the national government since the Civil War.

100% correct. By supporting the terrorists attacking police and overrunning Congress, they are, indeed, condoning the overthrow of the United States of America.

Those who are ex-military and attacked or support the attack are oath-breakers.
 
Something else Jan 6 deniers like Earl should think about is that by falsifying that day with sugarcoat they defend it; by defending it they take ownership of it, and what they own then is the first attack on the national government since the Civil War.

What were the leftist bombings in the 70's, by Obama's first donar, etal?

What were the attacks on Federal buildings in Portland ,etal?
 
What were the leftist bombings in the 70's, by Obama's first donar, etal?

What were the attacks on Federal buildings in Portland ,etal?

So you’re saying Democrats are as bad as Republicans. They’re not. Democrats didn’t call them “tourist events”.
 
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