Dehumanization of white men

Yurt said:
since race can be considered a factor for admission to schools, how is it that if a school uses race as a factor (it will be non white of course), this is equal protection under the law to a white applicant?
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It's about as bad as the legacy system for wealthy, otherwise unqualified students isn't it?
 
Yurt said:
you also miss the point...the point is NOT about numbers. the point is about the law discriminating. do you deny the law discriminates against white people? that is, the law allows and at times demands that someone is chosen based either solely on their race or race was just one factor.

that is the issue of this thread. do you understand?
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Do you deny that, given the history of this country, somewhere along the way, in fairness, the field needed leveling?
 
AssHatZombie said:
So you're saying two wrongs make a right?
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No, I'm showing the hypocrisy of those who conveniently apply only one side of a story to further their own ends. Affirmative Action is intended to bring just a smattering of justice to those who, for centuries, suffered in order to enrich the White males that you find so downtrodden. The Legacy System is yet another way to skew the system toward those in power. No complaints forthcoming about that, are there?
The firemen case is an unfortunate result of the plight we Caucasians put upon other humans. Without slavery and then Jim Crow, there would have been no need for Affirmative Action.
 
Excellent post, AssHat. Everything you said is true. I should know. People should be hired for their qualifications, not the color of one's skin. Anyone who thinks this doesn't happen, is in extreme denial.

AssHatZombie said:
http://www.associatedcontent.com/ar...ion_reverse_racism.html?singlepage=true&cat=4

There Seems to Be a New Form of Discrimination Forming, Especially in This Country We Call America
It seems that in this new millennium man has come fairly far in his ability to accept those that are different from him. Thanks largely in part to those fearless warriors of the civil rights movement, as well as the feminist and gay rights movements. There are also many more people
willing to look past ones color, sex, or partner preference, and treat others as equals. This is also due to a bit of mans spiritual awakening, and we mustn't forget to give thanks for Gods help in all this either.

However, there seems to be a new form of discrimination forming, especially in this country we call America. This discrimination comes in various forms; it's harder for these people to receive help from government agencies, such as welfare, or student loan and grant agencies. They aren't even allowed to have their own private clubs. Even worse, these people can be turned down for employment based on who they are.

The people I am speaking of have become the new minority in this country, and are discriminated against more than any other group of people in existence, mostly because they are the only group left who don't have special protection. I am speaking of the straight, white male. Don't seem so shocked, and try to keep your jaw from dropping because it's true!

This is the one group of people who have no special rights, or even advocates speaking up for them. See, when you take several groups of peoples, who alone make up a small percentage of the population, and group them together into one category, minorities, you now have a single group of people who suddenly become the majority, therefore, they are no longer the minority.

Let's look at a couple of examples, because I am sure at this point someone's ready to hang me. At one time I lived on the west side of Tucson Arizona, which is predominately made up of Hispanic people. When I lived here I was unable to get a job anywhere, including fast food joints, in which I had more than significant experience. The one and only, reason sighted to me for this was my inability to speak Spanish. Now, I realize that most of the customers that frequented these places were Spanish speaking, and this is apparently their right, which I personally have no problem with. However, I am a cook, and for someone to tell me that I can't flip burgers because I never learned to speak a foreign language is quite frankly ludicrous. Further more, it wasn't just the fact that I didn't speak Spanish that kept me from gaining employment but I believe it was the color of my skin as well. In the six months that I lived in this area I never once saw a white person working behind the counter at any of these places. Not even one who spoke Spanish! Believe me in Tucson there are several white people who speak Spanish, it is almost required.

What I find more disturbing still is that I had no recourse. Try being a white person and trying to claim that you have been discriminated against, all you will get are snickers and shaking heads. However, if the situation were reversed, and I've seen it myself, and someone was turned down for a job because of an inability to speak English, the person applying could cry discrimination and the employer would hire that person in simple fear of legal recourse or even simply to avoid the possible media frenzy caused by that persons apparent racism. The employer would have no choice but to make accommodations for this person, or else risk losing everything they had worked years to build.

O.k. so that's one example you say; fine, let's look at another example. I know of a divorced white man who is disabled and on a measly fixed income. When he tried to apply for food stamps and medical insurance through the state he was told that they couldn't help him. However during the interview the case worker noticed certain facial features and bone structure and asked the man if he was of Native American descent. The man replied truthfully with a "yes, why?" The case worker then told him that if the percentage of Native blood was high enough that he could walk out the door with his food stamps! Needless to say, he was quite displeased and left. Now tell me that is not racism. The welfare system is notorious for reverse racism, it is much easier for a person of color, or a female for that matter, to receive assistance than it is for a white male; how is that fair?

Another example of this reverse discrimination is evident everywhere one goes, however most of us choose not to see it. Many times has a private club or establishment been plastered into the media headlines for refusal to allow someone into their midst. Golf courses and country clubs were repeatedly chastised for not allowing blacks to join or play. This is, of course, no longer allowed by law, and rightfully so. The law now states that no one may discriminate against someone because of the color of their skin or their sex. Well, if that's true then why is it I can go into any city, or town, and find a gym that only allows females as members? Why is it that I can't get a scholarship to go to school from the United Negro College Fund? How many clubs and organizations have been legally forced to allow someone in because discrimination is illegal? If we are so open minded, why do so many applications, as well as the standardized tests my son takes every year at school, ask for your race? Aren't we all a part of the human race? Shouldn't everyone have an equal opportunity? What would people say if someone started a college fund solely for white people, say the United Anglo College Fund? What would people say if we held a straight pride parade? We would be called the discriminators, but it seems fine for everyone else to do. What about the hundreds of qualified people who were turned down for jobs during affirmative action because they were straight white men, supposedly not a minority, and the employer had to hire a certain percentage of minorities? In fact I'm curious to see if the statistics wouldn't show straight white men to be the minority. Just as other people didn't have a choice as to whom they would be born as, nor did we.

Please, don't get me wrong. I believe everyone should have an equal opportunity. I believe everyone should receive the help they need. In short I believe everyone should have equal rights, even if they are white, straight, and male. How is it if someone talks bad about a minority it isn't politically correct? However, if someone speaks out against a white person or a man, everyone looks the other way? Look, not all white men are power hungry corporate yes men who have had everything handed to them on a silver platter. I've worked my fingers to the bone for over 13 yeas and have little to nothing to show for it. Not all of us straight white men are privileged, or discriminatory.

In closing I would just like to say that discrimination is discrimination, and the only color that really matters anymore is cold, hard, green. If people shouldn't be discriminated against because of their color of skin, race, religion, sex, or choice of partner, then NO ONE should be discriminated against for these reasons, even straight, white, men.
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Yurt said:
since race can be considered a factor for admission to schools, how is it that if a school uses race as a factor (it will be non white of course), this is equal protection under the law to a white applicant?
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Don't you know? the problem is systemic. Only by blocking the path of the those who's skin color matches the skin coilor of the most successful and the majority of leadership of the country, can we hope to achieve some sort of balance. We must have those with white skin stopped from being so successful. Too many of them are already up there.

I have a great idea. Let's create whitey credits. White folks will have to pay a fee for being white and it will help subsidise the cost of their whiteness. Non whites will be given whitey credits. Any time a non white encounters a white skinned human they will be able to demand payment for their whitey credits. Whitey will have to purchase at least one whitey credit. Whitey credits are then used by whites to offset their taxable income. Super rich whites will buy as many whitey credits as possible so we have to limit how much they can get out the whitey credits program. Further dicussion and input from non whites is needed before finalizing the plan, but i think we have a winner
 
The reason Affirmative action type laws are in place is becuase without such laws predomientley white employers would discriminate against other skin tone groups.

I was in the work force when there were no whites or women in the typical white male blue collar jobs. I have lived thru the change. Many of you do not know how things were then vs now. The only point of reference you have is now.
 
uscitizen said:
The reason Affirmative action type laws are in place is becuase without such laws predomientley white employers would discriminate against other skin tone groups.

I was in the work force when there were no whites or women in the typical white male blue collar jobs. I have lived thru the change. Many of you do not know how things were then vs now. The only point of reference you have is now.
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unless we're all taking a ride a time machine, WTF does it matter how it was before? millions of people were never part of that system. Why not punish people like you who were there and took part in the discrimination?
 
tinfoil said:
unless we're all taking a ride a time machine, WTF does it matter how it was before? millions of people were never part of that system. Why not punish people like you who were there and took part in the discrimination?
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You missed the point. the point is that non whites would still be discriminated against. The last presidential election proved that. Many white Dem voters refused to vote for a black man. Of course most of them had also voted for Bush a couple of times too.

I have heard the N word much more since early last year than in prior years.
 
uscitizen said:
The reason Affirmative action type laws are in place is becuase without such laws predomientley white employers would discriminate against other skin tone groups.

I was in the work force when there were no whites or women in the typical white male blue collar jobs. I have lived thru the change. Many of you do not know how things were then vs now. The only point of reference you have is now.
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We're living the in the now. You shit.

Hey, lucky you. You lived through it.

Don't let your guilty conscience cause you to be racially discriminatory fuckface to the white men coming after you. Oh wait, too late.
 
uscitizen said:
You missed the point. the point is that non whites would still be discriminated against. The last presidential election proved that. Many white Dem voters refused to vote for a black man. Of course most of them had also voted for Bush a couple of times too.

I have heard the N word much more since early last year than in prior years.
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No, I didn't miss the point. And you have not provided any evidence to back up your assertion that
"non whites would still be discriminated against"
 
tinfoil said:
No, I didn't miss the point. And you have not provided any evidence to back up your assertion that
"non whites would still be discriminated against"
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LOL. Don't really understand you own country much do you?

Quiet racism is alive and well in the good OL USA.
The cancer still thrives.
 
AssHatZombie said:
We're living the in the now. You shit.

Hey, lucky you. You lived through it.

Don't let your guilty conscience cause you to be racially discriminatory fuckface to the white men coming after you. Oh wait, too late.
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So we should have done NOTHING after we undid the racist system. I bet you think that we shouldn't cast a broken leg either. Just tell the person with the broken leg we all feel really bad but can he get up now and get back to work. We hobbled an entire race of people in this country for centuries, even after we freed them. That sort of disadvantage is not overcome overnight.

As for the legacy systems, you white whiners have NEVER decried that system. It has always been great that schools would admit unqualified students so long as daddy went to that school as well.
 
Watermark said:
holy_fuck_i_love_being_white.jpg
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LMAO :cof1: Nice!
 
Socrtease said:
I want you to show me how affirmative action has hurt white people. Show me higher unemployment figures for whites than for Hispanics and Blacks. Show me that White men in particular now suffer from job losses and unemployment at much higher rates than their numbers. I challenge you. Put up or shut up. You to Tutu. I keep hearing about how hard it is to be me, but I don't see it. Shit I live in a country that is 56% Hispanic. Yet somehow through all this hardship I managed to find a job,actually to make a job for myself. So act like I am from Missouri and show me.
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LOL, I feel like I've seen this right wing bitch fest a thousand times.

You show them white people getting actively recruited and getting scholarships at HSBU's, they still complain. And watch.....In February, they'll regurgitate the same shit they say year in and year out about Black history month and of course you'll see a thread by some assmunch du jour - waaaaaa, I'm so oppressed......my vagina hurts....waaaaaa......white guys can't catch a break.......waaaaaa......she only selected to the supreme court b/c she's latina.......waaaaaa.......my nipples are sore.

These fucking pussies need to man up.
 
TuTu Monroe said:
Excellent post, AssHat. Everything you said is true. I should know. People should be hired for their qualifications, not the color of one's skin. Anyone who thinks this doesn't happen, is in extreme denial.
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Do you deny that women and minorities have been discriminated against in the workforce for centuries?

I give "Rev. John" the same amount of credibility I'd give to anyone posting on any forum. He's offering an opinion, no more, no less.

The New Discrimination: Reverse Racism and Straight WHITE Men as the True Minority
March 24, 2008 by
Rev. John

Rev. John
Living in Cochise, AZ
I am a 34 year old man with a girlfriend and 2 boys, ages 13 and 2 years. I live in Cochise Arizona and study mostly theology and philosophy. I am also an ordained minister of the Universal Life Church.
 
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