ExpressLane
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Because people like you have resister any meaningful forensic audits to detect fraud. But that is changing.
Was 2020 election stolen or not?
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Why?
There's no voter fraud to justify these ad hoc rules.
You claimed there was, but then couldn't provide that evidence, then you goaded people on into acting on that absence of proof on 1/6 while you were sitting at home on JPP egging them on.
What a fucking loser.
The only fraud is the lie that unsolicited ballots are a recipe for fraud.
Five states send out unsolicited mail-in ballots, and none of those states reported any fraud in 2020.
Seems like all the fraud was done by Trump voters, or Trump himself, or people like anatta:
I didn't ask for a mail in, I would have never known it was sent except my Russian neighbor
( who values American democracy more then most Americans) was kind enough to bring it over
return postage paid envelope included.. what could possibly go wrong??
^^^THAT is election fraud.
It was not my assumption. It was one assumption of those who supported changing voter laws. As usual, you try to attribute things to the poster that he never said or believed. You create a straw man to argue with. You asked why those laws were passed and I gave you one reason as expressed by those supporting the law.
Read carefully and you will see that I never said I thought those laws were needed. I did say any existing laws people were yelling about "suppressing" the vote actually saw increased turnout in 2018 and 2020. You try to put everybody in two extreme camps if they do not agree with every liberal claim.
Don't be so simplistic. Trying to explain complex events with single variable answers is not good science and never adequate.
ExpressLane
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If you don't look will never find fraud. There are MANY affidavits from Republicans and Democrats alleging voter fraud.
I really doubt the people who were so stupid that Trump conned them into toiling his baggage for the rest of their lives, would be able to even identify fraud, much less spell it.
You said the election was stolen, but then were too scared to go to DC to do anything about it.
Must be because you don't believe the election was stolen, you're just pretending it was for the sake of your JPP character.
Yes, it very literally was your assumption, Flash.
ExpressLane
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And you didn't go defend the Capital from what you said was an insurrection and attempted coup.
No, it was not an assumption on my part. If you don't think many of the Republicans who wanted those laws passed do not believe there was voter fraud then you have been blind and deaf.
Whether it is true is irrelevant. You asked why they did it. I gave you one reason.
By the way, it is the South Central states that did not change voter access laws and did not see a big increase in mail-in voting and yet saw increased turnout.
That you irresponsibly repeated.
By repeating lies like that, you become complicit in the lie because you are giving space and room for it to breathe.
But by repeating it, Flash, you give it legitimacy.
Do you understand that your actions by merely repeating that shit are proliferating the bad faith??
A reason that is demonstrably false, and you know it's false.
So by giving it that space, you're elevating it and treating it as if it is legitimate.
Would you appreciate it if I kept repeating something false about you that someone else said, so that every conversation has to start with you trying to delegitimize these false things?
Complete BS. I did not repeat a lie. I gave you a reason why somebody did something because you asked. Whether that person's reason is legitimate is irrelevant.
That goes along with your fascist attitude to deprive those of speech you don't like. You are the perfect example of the authoritarian liberal.
Complete BS. I did not repeat a lie. I gave you a reason why somebody did something because you asked. Whether that person's reason is legitimate is irrelevant. We want all views to "breathe" so we can reject those we don't like.
That goes along with your fascist attitude to deprive those of speech you don't like. You are the perfect example of the authoritarian liberal.
I don't enjoy spending my life insulting and attacking others with trivial points.
In your case, the call is coming from inside the house.
None of which anyone is willing to testify under oath in front of a judge.
Then why did you ask me why they passed the laws? If their reasons are false you are the one inviting me to spread their views by answering your question. You did not want a real answer--you wanted something to rant about and throw around more insults and hate.
You did repeat a lie...the lie that there was election fraud. You quite literally repeated it, and its legitimacy is wholly relevant because you're presenting their lie as legitimate.
If I was your neighbor, and I erected a flag that depicted your house on fire, your family's charred corpses on the front lawn, you hanging from a noose, with me dancing around your hanging body while holding a lit match and gasoline can, and then got all your other neighbors to fly the same flag, and then managed to get that flag placed everywhere in the public space where you had to see it every day, you'd go running to the police so fast complaining about harassment and threats that their heads would spin.
Because I wanted you to repeat their lie in order for me to make my main point. And you did precisely that.
So you don't think you bear any responsibility to point out that what you are repeating is false?
I wanted you to blunder your way into an argument about your personal responsibility to the truth, and you did.
And you just repeated that lie yourself. I never presented it as legitimate. I presented it as their reason.
I repeated a lot of your claims that were lies, but that does not mean I was legitimizing them. I was explaining why you were wrong.
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