The GOP...a WASP nest

Why would the GOP nominate a moderate? Are they looking for another McCain moment?

The electorate didn't VIEW John McCain AS a moderate... they viewed him as too far to the right...

The election was lost because independents and moderates voted Democrat

What is left of the GOP and their "base" is dumber than dogshit...
 
Mick was the least conservative of the 2008 GOP candidates, thus the term "moderate" certainly describes him perfectly: http://www.conservative.org/archive2/2008potus.asp

I've never mistook Bush for a conservative, and I don't know any other fellow conservative who has either.

Reagan campaigned as a social and fiscal conservative and won two landslide elections. The first was against Carter, the worst president of the 20th century and a flaming liberal. His second victory was against a more moderate Democrat and the margin of victory was larger, unless I'm mistaken.

I'm on record here for urging Obama to go left as fast and far as possible and so far he has not disappointed. This will collapse the economy, possibly cause nuclear war in the middle east and/or Korea, as well as disgust voters with his defamation of the Founders. "Carter II" will create an opportunity for a social and fiscal conservative to lead you, Damo and Topper, along with a large majority of Americans back into economic, diplomatic and social reality.

This is the problem with the Republican party. A moderate like Obama is a pinko commie liberal to ya'll there's no room for compromise. Either we have a conservative white good ol boy nation or you want to bring it down around our necks. Rather patriotic, don't ya think?

We'll ya'll said the same thing about Clinton, who was a moderate, and he ushered in one of the greatest era's of peace time prosperity. So if men like Clinton and Obama are far left liberal to you....then give me one of them over incompetent conservatives anytime.

Can't you see that the Republican party needs to reform towards the mainstream of American politics to be viable and that far right conservative politics are well removed from the mainstream?
 
The electorate didn't VIEW John McCain AS a moderate... they viewed him as too far to the right...

The election was lost because independents and moderates voted Democrat

What is left of the GOP and their "base" is dumber than dogshit...

I have to correct you here. A little humility is in order. It wasn't that long ago that that same GOP dominated all branches of Government. The GOP may be misguided and inept at governance but dumber than dog shit they are not and if you think they are, then don't be surprized if we end up with all 3 branches of Government controlled by Republicans again.

Moral of the story? Respect thy opponent.
 
The electorate didn't VIEW John McCain AS a moderate... they viewed him as too far to the right...

The election was lost because independents and moderates voted Democrat

What is left of the GOP and their "base" is dumber than dogshit...

Actually, if that was the case then conservatives would have voted for him, but the exit polls showed that many of us chose to select "none of the above".
 
Actualy, he was ranked the most liberal of any Senator in 2007. *shrug*

http://nj.nationaljournal.com/voteratings/sen/lib_cons.htm?o1=lib_composite&o2=desc#results

Yea and cons said that about Kerry and said that about Gore when he was Senator and they said that about Clinton when he was Governor and the only one they didn't say that about was Carter who was a true blue liberal. That line of crap is just so old.

And who cares if the Dems are liberal? At least their competent when it comes to governance. Republicans dont' have a whole lot to brag about in that department.

Be that as it's may. Stay out side the mainstream if you want but don't bitch to us when your party is irrelevent.
 
Yea and cons said that about Kerry and said that about Gore when he was Senator and they said that about Clinton when he was Governor and the only one they didn't say that about was Carter who was a true blue liberal. That line of crap is just so old.

And who cares if the Dems are liberal? At least their competent when it comes to governance. Republicans dont' have a whole lot to brag about in that department.

Be that as it's may. Stay out side the mainstream if you want but don't bitch to us when your party is irrelevent.
Actually, the standards for that poll have long been established well before Obama started a run for President. If you want to be liberal, then be liberal. But don't claim to be a moderate as if you are ashamed to be liberal.*shrug*
 
Actually, the standards for that poll have long been established well before Obama started a run for President. If you want to be liberal, then be liberal. But don't claim to be a moderate as if you are ashamed to be liberal.*shrug*

Obama's a moderate and those are worthless polls. There's really very few true liberals in US politics. Dennis Kucinich comes to mind. However, he's got a real hot wife!! You can forgive a man a lot when he has a hot wife! :-)
 
Obama's a moderate and those are worthless polls. There's really very few true liberals in US politics. Dennis Kucinich comes to mind. However, he's got a real hot wife!! You can forgive a man a lot when he has a hot wife! :-)
I'll chose to believe his state and federal legislative voting records rather than your unbiased assertion. :rolleyes:
 
I have to correct you here. A little humility is in order. It wasn't that long ago that that same GOP dominated all branches of Government. The GOP may be misguided and inept at governance but dumber than dog shit they are not and if you think they are, then don't be surprized if we end up with all 3 branches of Government controlled by Republicans again.

Moral of the story? Respect thy opponent.

Respect...for a bunch of right wing pea brains?



A Trifecta of Inadequacy

February 11, 2009

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A couple of months ago, I wrote about the tired state of the Republican Party and how it desperately needs to blow past the disastrous Bush years and rediscover its core values. But months after being overwhelmingly rejected by the American people, the Republican Party remains unable to recapture its substance. Instead, we have only seen more pandering to the fanatics and dim bulbs, more of the same putrid ideas and more power-plays that evoke politics before country -- while the economy crashes and burns.

Weeks after the election, a Gallup Poll recorded that 67% of Republicans wanted Sarah Palin to be the party nominee in 2012. A recent Rasmussen poll found that 55% of GOP voters want their party to look more like Palin. (The fact that 43% of Republicans decry their party for becoming "too moderate" under Bush is utterly terrifying.) Yes, Sarah Palin -- the hockey mom who makes George W. Bush and Dan Quayle look like professors -- is the front-runner to lead this party. We're talking about the governor who couldn't identify the Bush Doctrine or recall a Supreme Court case besides Roe v Wade. The journalism major who couldn't name a newspaper she reads. The Vice Presidential candidate who repeatedly informed us that she does not know what a Vice President does!

But the constituency's fondness for the intellectually feeble doesn't end there. GOP officials are now seeking economic counsel from Joe the Plumber, the daft Ohioan McCain exalted as "an American hero" and "my role model" during his campaign. Yes, Joe the Plumber -- the alleged plumber without a plumbing license, who was recently in trouble for not paying his taxes and who has no discernible background or expertise in any field. The dreamer who was upset that Obama was going to disrupt his fantasy by increasing taxes on a business he wasn't even close to owning, even though Obama's tax plan would have left him better off in reality. The commentator who obtusely claimed that Obama's "ideology is completely different than what democracy stands for" and blathered on FOX News that a vote for Obama would bring the "death of Israel."

Even so, none of this is as disturbing as Rush Limbaugh's rapid ascent to "new leader" and "new face" of the Republican Party, as numerous journalists suggest. Just hours after Rep. Phil Gingrey (R-GA) took an honorable stance and reprimanded Limbaugh for "throwing bricks," he was reduced to his knees in an embarrassing apology to mighty Rush. John McCain, who once upon a time criticized the fringe elements of his party, defended the talk radio host against those who dare to be critical of a conservative voice with a "wide viewing audience." Other prominent GOP officials have joined the rush to Limbaugh's defense, while he humiliates them further by bragging that Obama is "more frightened" of him than of the most powerful Republicans in Congress. Incredible.

It's no wonder Republicans refuse to play ball on President Obama's crucial stimulus package -- they're beholden to madcap who has broadcast his desire to see his president fail; they're searching for guidance in a thick-headed clown who continues to view Obama as a gay-marrying Muslim socialist from someplace foreign, and they're keen on ushering in as their new leader a former beauty queen who reminds us of Miss Teen South Carolina. Despite Obama's commitment to bipartisanship and repeated overtures to the GOP, we've watched them sit on the bleachers and sulk while their country sinks deeper into hot water. Obama has reminded the GOP that the reason they were crushed in November was that their ideas, which they still cling to, "have been tested, and they have failed." Maybe it's time to loosen the fist, take a hint and grow up.

So there's your Republican Party in a nutshell: controlled by Rush Limbaugh, seeking wisdom from Joe the Plumber and eager to extol Sarah Palin as their next commanding officer. How is this not sending chills of horror down more spines?

And to my conservative friends: this isn't about our philosophical differences -- we all want two respectable parties so they can keep each other in check. This is about holding both to certain minimal standards, which one of them clearly isn't fulfilling.

Sahil Kapur - http://www.alternet.org/wire/1/sahilkapuratrifectaofinadequacy




"Eighty percent of Republicans are just Democrats that don't know what's going on"
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
 
You believe in racial discrimination as a tool of justice. That's worse.

Excuse me...how do you know what I believe? Please cite some evidence to back up your screwball blather...


"My hero is St. Francis of Assisi because he understood the connection between spirituality and the environment. He understood the way God communicates to us most forcefully is through the fish, the birds and the trees and that it is a sin to destroy those things."
Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.
 
Excuse me...how do you know what I believe? Please cite some evidence to back up your screwball blather...


"My hero is St. Francis of Assisi because he understood the connection between spirituality and the environment. He understood the way God communicates to us most forcefully is through the fish, the birds and the trees and that it is a sin to destroy those things."
Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.

DO you believe in Affirmative Action?
 
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