About friggin time....

Cancel 2016.2

Cancel 2016.2

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http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iylN_O7oBytTj3TFrrKhw0Zya95gD98AM36G3

"Feds give $50M in aid to towns hit by auto layoffs
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DAYTON, Ohio (AP) — The federal government will give car-manufacturing communities $50 million in grants to train laid-off workers for jobs in the energy efficiency and renewable energy sectors, the White House's auto recovery leader said Thursday.

The funds also will provide job counseling and placement services.

"American workers are the best in the world, and they have been hard hit by changes in the auto industry," said Ed Montgomery, President Barack Obama's director of recovery for auto communities and workers. "This funding will help workers gain new skill sets that build upon their manufacturing experience.

The $50 million is part of $500 million provided by the federal stimulus law.

The qualify for the money, a community must have a motor vehicle manufacturer or supplier and have experienced significant layoffs. Details of the program, including application deadlines, are expected to be released next month.

Montgomery is touring Ohio, with stops in Dayton and Toledo on Thursday and in Twinsburg in northeast Ohio on Friday. He is scheduled to tour a Chrysler assembly plant in Toledo. In Twinsburg, he is to meet with autoworkers from a Chrysler plant that is slated to close."

Kudos to whomever was involved in this decision. It is nice to see that someone gets it. When companies within an industry are laying off people and seem to be struggling to keep up with their competition, we should not try to force those companies to stay alive. We should do what is outlined above. Re-train the workers for industries that are going to need qualified employees in the near future (especially given the alt energy push we are about to see)
 
If we are going to be in the business of giving money to someone because of company failure I like this idea better than most.
 
Hmm a friend of mine laid off in an auto parts supplier has had the paperwork on the training aid for a couple of months.
This must be something more.
 
awesome. we're spending 50 million to train people for jobs in an industry that is not self sustaining and will only be a further drain on the economy. Do the Dems know their shit or what.
 
leaningright said:
If we are going to be in the business of giving money to someone because of company failure I like this idea better than most.
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I see this more as an investment in the future of the country. Something that has the ability to pay dividends back to society down the road.

Similarly, if they ever get off their asses and start pumping money into re-building our failing infrastructure, that too would be an investment.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
awesome. we're spending 50 million to train people for jobs in an industry that is not self sustaining and will only be a further drain on the economy. Do the Dems know their shit or what.
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They aren't training auto workers to become auto workers. They're training auto workers to become something else.
 
Dungheap said:
They aren't training auto workers to become auto workers. They're training auto workers to become something else.
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no shit. according to the article, they are going to train them in 'energy efficiency' and 'renewable energy' sectors, two industries that are not self sustai.....n/m. I forgot who I was talking to. It's something you don't care to understand.
 
Superfreak said:
I see this more as an investment in the future of the country. Something that has the ability to pay dividends back to society down the road.

Similarly, if they ever get off their %$&$ and start pumping money into re-building our failing infrastructure, that too would be an investment.
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I agree completely.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
no shit. according to the article, they are going to train them in 'energy efficiency' and 'renewable energy' sectors, two industries that are not self sustai.....n/m. I forgot who I was talking to. It's something you don't care to understand.
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I think you need to educate yourself on renewable energy. You are quite incorrect to state that they are not self sustaining. Right now, they cost more to produce the energy, but that does not mean they are not self sustaining... they are far more self sustaining than using fossil fuels which are of course a depleting asset.

When you factor in all of the money the US sends overseas every year to pay for fossil fuels, all the money we spend on health issues caused by pollutants and all of the costs to clean up the environment.... the cost analysis becomes much more favorable in the short term for renewable energy and in the long term it is a no brainer to go with renewables.
 
Superfreak said:
I think you need to educate yourself on renewable energy. You are quite incorrect to state that they are not self sustaining. Right now, they cost more to produce the energy, but that does not mean they are not self sustaining... they are far more self sustaining than using fossil fuels which are of course a depleting asset.

When you factor in all of the money the US sends overseas every year to pay for fossil fuels, all the money we spend on health issues caused by pollutants and all of the costs to clean up the environment.... the cost analysis becomes much more favorable in the short term for renewable energy and in the long term it is a no brainer to go with renewables.
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I would absolutely LOVE for you to show me the relevant proof of studies and cost effects for that please.
 
Superfreak said:
did you censor my post? :rant: :blowup:

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Haha, only for my quote of it. Can't have stuff like that linked to my name. I told you guys that I am very socially conservative. Don't cuss, don't drink, don't lie, don't cheat......just go to work and go home and make love to my wife.....maybe fish and hunt a little. ;)
 
leaningright said:
Haha, only for my quote of it. Can't have stuff like that linked to my name. I told you guys that I am very socially conservative. Don't cuss, don't drink, don't lie, don't cheat......just go to work and go home and !@#$!%^^^ my wife.....maybe fish and hunt a little. ;)
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Sorry, this is a PG site... we don't tolerate all that talk of fornicating :cool:
 
SmarterThanYou said:
I would absolutely LOVE for you to show me the relevant proof of studies and cost effects for that please.
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http://www.nrel.gov/analysis/seminar/pdfs/2004/ea_seminar_sept_20_2.pdf

http://www.edn.com/article/CA6432171.html

http://features.csmonitor.com/innovation/2008/12/04/will-solar-power-ever-be-as-cheap-as-coal/

The very fact that we are talking about RENEWABLES makes them self-sustaining. I think you are confusing self-sustaining with economically viable alternatives.

As for energy produced by coal... the cost analysis do not include healthcare related issues due to the pollution. For nat gas electric production, you do not have the same issues as it is far cleaner than coal.

Renewables have a ways to go to reach cost parity, but we are close and getting closer. Hence, we will need people trained in the installation of such technology.

Side note... right now for larger commercial properties, the breakeven point on ROI is now about a year.
 
Whomever said:
For residential properties it is around 10 years.
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True... which means there is still work to be done to improve efficiency.

That said, even if you do not plan to keep your home for 10 years, it is a sound investment for those who can afford to do so at this point.
 
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