CBS stacked bogus ‘85% of Americans loved Joe Biden’s speech’ poll

volsrock said:
Many conservatives voiced skepticism about the 85% number quoted by CBS News following Joe Biden's speech. They were right to be skeptical.

https://americanconservativemovemen...ech-poll-with-democrats-3-1-over-republicans/

Continually lying to us even when they’ve been caught out time after time after time.
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American Conservative Movement

Questionable Reasoning: Poor Sourcing, Conspiracy Theories, Pseudoscience, Propaganda, Lack of Transparency, False Information
Bias Rating: FAR RIGHT
Factual Reporting: LOW
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Media Type: Website
Traffic/Popularity: Minimal Traffic
MBFC Credibility Rating: LOW CREDIBILITY

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/american-conservative-movement-acm/
 
Concart said:
Because there is no 'information' given, just.... wait for it..... attacking the source.
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The guy gave a link. You provided nothing but an opinion on where that particular group stands politically. You did nothing to refute the link or whatever the article linked to stated.
 
From the article ...

"One might want to give CBS and YouGov the benefit of the doubt by saying they had a bad draw with the 943 people they surveyed. Except, they didn’t survey 943. They surveyed 10,420 and then hand-selected the respondents they wanted to include in their “scientific” poll. In other words, they could have just as easily picked out only those who didn’t like the speech and made it 100% negative and it would have been just as valid."

THERE IT IS FOLKS ... THE REST OF THE STORY
 
"They surveyed 10,420 and then hand-selected the respondents they wanted to include in their “scientific” poll. In other words, they could have just as easily picked out only those who didn’t like the speech and made it 100% negative and it would have been just as valid."

Lie.

"An initial survey was conducted by YouGov between April 23-27, 2021 using a nationally representative sample of 10,420 U.S. adults, including 4,211 respondents who planned to watch the address. Respondents who planned to watch the speech were asked if they were willing to be reinterviewed. "

End of story. Source rejected. Next?
 
Grumpy said:
From the article ...

"One might want to give CBS and YouGov the benefit of the doubt by saying they had a bad draw with the 943 people they surveyed. Except, they didn’t survey 943. They surveyed 10,420 and then hand-selected the respondents they wanted to include in their “scientific” poll. In other words, they could have just as easily picked out only those who didn’t like the speech and made it 100% negative and it would have been just as valid."

THERE IT IS FOLKS ... THE REST OF THE STORY
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Except it's a lie. And you stupid fucks fell for it.

"An initial survey was conducted by YouGov between April 23-27, 2021 using a nationally representative sample of 10,420 U.S. adults, including 4,211 respondents who planned to watch the address. Respondents who planned to watch the speech were asked if they were willing to be reinterviewed. "
 
Concart said:
Except it's a lie. And you stupid fucks fell for it.

"An initial survey was conducted by YouGov between April 23-27, 2021 using a nationally representative sample of 10,420 U.S. adults, including 4,211 respondents who planned to watch the address. Respondents who planned to watch the speech were asked if they were willing to be reinterviewed. "
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Prove its a lie
 
Wow, here's a shocker...... more Democrats than Republicans watched the speech. As usual, another complete waste of time and another completely dishonest post from a completely dishonest poster.
 
I'll add, that any source--ANY SOURCE-- that says 85% of Americans liked Biden's speech when only a bit more than 6% of Americans even watched it, is full of shit. Now, it might be that 85% of those watching the speech liked it making that about 5% or a bit more of all Americans, but you can't poll people who didn't watch the speech and honestly say how they liked it other than that they didn't see it.

Yet, that's the narrative being pushed, conflating all Americans with the small fraction that did watch the speech.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
The guy gave a link. You provided nothing but an opinion on where that particular group stands politically. You did nothing to refute the link or whatever the article linked to stated.
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Nope. I quoted the article, and then I quoted the ACTUAL methodology. The article is a lie. Next?
 
T. A. Gardner said:
I'll add, that any source--ANY SOURCE-- that says 85% of Americans liked Biden's speech when only a bit more than 6% of Americans even watched it, is full of shit. Now, it might be that 85% of those watching the speech liked it making that about 5% or a bit more of all Americans, but you can't poll people who didn't watch the speech and honestly say how they liked it other than that they didn't see it.

Yet, that's the narrative being pushed, conflating all Americans with the small fraction that did watch the speech.
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You continue to up the bar for stupidity.

"A CBS News/YouGov poll conducted after Biden’s speech found that speech viewers — a majority of whom identified as Democrats (54%) — overwhelmingly approved (85%) of his speech. "

You are the gift that keeps on giving.
 
Concart said:
Except it's a lie. And you stupid fucks fell for it.

"An initial survey was conducted by YouGov between April 23-27, 2021 using a nationally representative sample of 10,420 U.S. adults, including 4,211 respondents who planned to watch the address. Respondents who planned to watch the speech were asked if they were willing to be reinterviewed. "
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Where is the lie ... other than what YOU say ???
 
Truthiness incoming:


(CNN)About half of Americans who watched President Joe Biden's address to Congress had a very positive reaction to the speech, and 71% said they walked away feeling more optimistic about the country's direction, according to a CNN Poll conducted by SSRS.

By a wide margin, speech-watchers said that Biden's policy proposals would move the country in the right direction (73%) rather than the wrong direction (27%). In a survey conducted before the speech, the same people were a bit less bullish that Biden would lead in the right direction (67% right direction, 33% wrong direction), and that movement came from the independents and Republicans who watched the speech. Among Republicans, the share saying Biden's policies would move the country in the right direction grew from 13% pre-speech to 27% post-speech, while among independents, that percentage rose from 61% to 73%.

That perception carries through to the major issues covered in the speech. More than 8 in 10 said Biden's proposals on the coronavirus pandemic would move in the right direction (86%), and 74% said the same about racial injustice. Around 7 in 10 said the President's policies on the economy (72%), gun laws (70%) and taxes (70%) were steps in the right direction. Slightly fewer said the same about immigration (65%). ( https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/28/politics/cnn-poll-biden-speech-to-congress/index.html )
 
Nordberg said:
I saw several sources from 80 to 85. It was a rousing success.
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Biden’s First Speech To Congress Reportedly Draws 11.6 Million Viewers On Networks
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewal...-million-viewers-on-networks/?sh=bc5338a3695d

Biden address pulls in 11.6M broadcast viewers, putting it behind Trump's first speech
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/b...ing-it-behind-trumps-first-speech/ar-BB1gccuW

Did 85% of Americans Approve of Biden’s Speech? FALSE
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https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/85-percent-americans-biden-speech/
 
Grumpy said:
Where is the lie ... other than what YOU say ???
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The lie?

The article claimed that the 900+ respondents were hand picked. That is a lie. When you lie, you have no credibility. Premise rejected. Of course there were more Democratic respondents because.... wait for it.... MORE DEMOCRATS WATCHED THE SPEECH. This is like taking candy from a baby. Can you up your game a bit?
 
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