BLACK, BROWN, ASIAN, WHITE SOLIDARITY - THE FUTURE OF AMERICA IS HERE

[Darth Omar]

Here in Texas you are registered when you get your DL, now some people do not have a DL, so they have to jump through different hoops to get and ID. Just so ya know.

Make it to where you get a voter ID while you’re getting the Trump vaccination. That way they can vote and board planes.

Turn two hoops into one hoop.

 

[Darth Omar]

there are also ID cards issued by states -they look like a drivers license, but anyone can get them

As pointed out earlier, democrats pretend this is about making it easier for anyone when it’s really about making it easier for *anyone* to vote.

The tell is when they balk at voter ID.

In their minds anyone who is encompassed on all sides by our borders and taking in air should be allowed to vote. There’s no logical reason to balk at voter ID. Individuals who don’t drive, buy beer or cigarettes, never cash a check or etc, make up 0.005% of the population.

And for their sake we have to make it easier for fraudulent voting to occur.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

What attracted you to the republican party knowing how exclusive, violent and racist thry are?

No attraction whatsoever to the party. I have voted for *individuals* at the local level who were on the (R) ticket, because I felt that he/she was the better of the other candidates. For things like city council, school board, etc. I don't think that their party makes much of a difference. Or at least that many years ago it didn't. The last ten years, on the other hand, have made ppl a lot more partisan. 2020 was the first time I ever voted straight ticket in my life. (D), of course.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

And hence, the move by democrats to federalize election laws. If passed, it will make it difficult for republicans to win a national election. Though it’s going to be a little harder to pull off on the state/congressional level—as evidenced by the 2020 election where Biden won but democrats got slammed just about everywhere else.

Ah, so *that's* why the QOP is doing everything possible to make voting HARDER and disenfranchise as many citizens as they can. It has zero to do with voting security as claimed. It's outright disenfranchisement.

If your ideas are so great, why won't you win any more elections, Sparky?

 

[Darth Omar]

Ah, so *that's* why the QOP is doing everything possible to make voting HARDER and disenfranchise as many citizens as they can. It has zero to do with voting security as claimed. It's outright disenfranchisement.

If your ideas are so great, why won't you win any more elections, Sparky?

In real democracies elections provide a level playing field and aren’t ‘fortified’ by one side or another.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Yes, but what went wrong?

There is a very good argument is that the root cause is the rotting out and increasing death of Christianity, we are lost without it, there was no replacement but for this shitty WOKE and the Victim Culture Cult. .

Hence the desire of the QOP and the fundie Xtians to shove that particular religion down everyone's throat, and make it the state religion, eh? It's amazing that other prosperous, peaceful nations are able to keep religion and government/law separate, and don't seem to have nearly the crime problem that we do. Why is that?

Many so-called "shithole countries" have a far higher percentage of Christians than the U.S. does. Hmm. So maybe the problem here is NOT lack of religion, but something else?

Source: https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/most-christian-countries

 

[Darth Omar]

Yes, but what went wrong?

There is a very good argument is that the root cause is the rotting out and increasing death of Christianity, we are lost without it, there was no replacement but for this shitty WOKE and the Victim Culture Cult. .

You just hit the root cause.

 

[blackascoal]

As pointed out earlier, democrats pretend this is about making it easier for anyone when it’s really about making it easier for *anyone* to vote.

The tell is when they balk at voter ID.

In their minds anyone who is encompassed on all sides by our borders and taking in air should be allowed to vote. There’s no logical reason to balk at voter ID. Individuals who don’t drive, buy beer or cigarettes, never cash a check or etc, make up 0.005% of the population.

And for their sake we have to make it easier for fraudulent voting to occur.

More “fraudulent voting” BS WITHOUT A SHRED OF PROOF. OTHERWISE KNOWN AS REPUBLICANS LAST HOPE FOR “WINNING” NATIONAL ELECTIONS.

PERHAPS YOU SHOULD DEMAND THAT ONLY PEOPLE OVER 65 BE ALLOWED TO VOTE.

ATTEMPTS AT KEEPING VOTERS AWAY FROM THE POLLS IS DOOMED TO FAILURE, JUST AS IT FAILED IN THE LAST ELECTION.

 

[cawacko]

You just hit the root cause.

This may be the exception but my Pastor is all about being a woke and anti-racist church. So it’s not just atheists pushing this agenda. However I have heard the anti-racism movement and true followers of Ibram Kendi as akin to a religion.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

As pointed out earlier, democrats pretend this is about making it easier for anyone when it’s really about making it easier for *anyone* to vote.

The tell is when they balk at voter ID.

In their minds anyone who is encompassed on all sides by our borders and taking in air should be allowed to vote. There’s no logical reason to balk at voter ID. Individuals who don’t drive, buy beer or cigarettes, never cash a check or etc, make up 0.005% of the population.

And for their sake we have to make it easier for fraudulent voting to occur.

Come on, Oom. If you were serious about ID, you'd realize that it was the government's responsibility to get every eligible voter, even if they don't have a driver's license or passport, a proper ID.
Their requirement. Their responsibility. Voter ID issued with birth certificate or naturalization papers. Period.

But it has nothing to do with ID and everything to do with voter suppression.
You're blatantly lying and doing a poor job of it.
Your genuinely vile ideology can't win without voter suppression, and whether or not you know much, you do know that.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Ummm, that crap was floated by the GOP under the Shrub. Didn't take because people recognized another voter suppression/disenfranchisement tactic when they see it. If Biden is promoting something the same or similar, please quote it. If not, stop wasting time with your supposition and conjecture.

Biden wouldn’t dare push voter ID lol.

It’s ridiculous to not have to show proof of citizenship to vote. Unless you want non-citizens to vote.

You're such a mindless right wing parrot......ONLY the GOP has pushed for the situation I previously described...which severely contradicts the rantings of all you anti-gov't types, bleating about fascism and totalitarian control of the citizenry through nefarious means of tracking and cataloging. Yet now you want the very thing you ranting against. What, do you think that clowns that look like you won't be susceptible to unlawful search & seizure or surveillance if you get your way using fear mongering? Despite 30 years of bleating, you simpletons haven't produced any evidence of significant or rampant "non-citizen" voting, much less voter fraud in general


I asked you to provide proof of your previous assertion/insinuation against Biden in this regard. You can't. You're so busy just gainsaying against anything you perceive to be "lib'ral" that you make a complete ass of yourself without realizing it.

Laugh clown, laugh.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
First off, if you're going to pick up the gauntlet for someone else you should either answer the question or meet the burden of proof. Countering with another question is a dodge to not concede a point.

Secondly, Your private bank is your personal contract with you...not a public one or a national one. Note that the ID you use to open a bank account is the same ID used to intially get on the voter rolls. In my town, a yellow card is mailed to my house noting that I live at this address, my party affiliation and where my polling station is located. When I go to vote, there's a poll worker who just asks my name and address, she finds it in the registered ledger and I sign in. Signatures can be checked, but if it's a matter of insuring identity, you can just bring with you a stamped letter from where ever, showing that the USPS has validated your ID.

Also note that most banks don't issue photo ID bank cards....just one with a serial number mailed to your house/apartment.

A LOT of people can't afford new ID cards or go through the hassle of finding or obtaining their birth certificate to hustle out to one or two offices, etc., etc. This is especially true for our elderly population who have voted for YEARS without any trouble.

Wrong argument.

If one has to prove they are a citizen to register to vote, then they have the identification necessary to prove who they are when they go to vote. It's that simple. If you are arguing that you don't need to positively identify yourself as eligible to vote when registering, then you are arguing that nobody needs to prove who they are when voting.

The chronology of the posts clearly shows YOUR ATTEMPT to deviate from the discussion I had with Hawkeye. All you're doing here is ignoring what I described to parrot the SOS as if you don't comprehend what I wrote.

You do, you're not stupid ... just stubborn. That's why you create a hypothetical premise and then try to attach the false narrative to what I previously wrote. I was very detailed in why your scenarios just don't and won't work with the current system. In effect, you're lying about what I stated.

To date, despite all the fear mongering BS the right wing bigots & control freaks have pushed in the media in the last 30 years, there has been no evidence of rampant voter fraud or non-citizen voting. Any occurrence has been what, less than .01%? And even THAT is cumulative!

If you still don't get it, here's how I explained it to one of your like minded brethren:https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...TURE-OF-AMERICA-IS-HERE&p=4314348#post4314348

 

[blackascoal]

The chronology of the posts clearly shows YOUR ATTEMPT to deviate from the discussion I had with Hawkeye. All you're doing here is ignoring what I described to parrot the SOS as if you don't comprehend what I wrote.

You do, you're not stupid ... just stubborn. That's why you create a hypothetical premise and then try to attach the false narrative to what I previously wrote. I was very detailed in why your scenarios just don't and won't work with the current system. In effect, you're lying about what I stated.

To date, despite all the fear mongering BS the right wing bigots & control freaks have pushed in the media in the last 30 years, there has been no evidence of rampant voter fraud or non-citizen voting. Any occurrence has been what, less than .01%? And even THAT is cumulative!

If you still don't get it, here's how I explained it to one of your like minded brethren:https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...TURE-OF-AMERICA-IS-HERE&p=4314348#post4314348

TED CRUZ TO REPUBLICANS: LIMIT VOTING' BY ALL MEANS .. else we may never win another election. His words.

 

[Darth Omar]

You're such a mindless right wing parrot......ONLY the GOP has pushed for the situation I previously described...which severely contradicts the rantings of all you anti-gov't types, bleating about fascism and totalitarian control of the citizenry through nefarious means of tracking and cataloging. Yet now you want the very thing you ranting against. What, do you think that clowns that look like you won't be susceptible to unlawful search & seizure or surveillance if you get your way using fear mongering? Despite 30 years of bleating, you simpletons haven't produced any evidence of significant or rampant "non-citizen" voting, much less voter fraud in general


I asked you to provide proof of your previous assertion/insinuation against Biden in this regard. You can't. You're so busy just gainsaying against anything you perceive to be "lib'ral" that you make a complete ass of yourself without realizing it.

Laugh clown, laugh.

It’s an opinion lol.

Just like your opinion in the previous paragraph. This IS a debate board after all lol.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
The chronology of the posts clearly shows YOUR ATTEMPT to deviate from the discussion I had with Hawkeye. All you're doing here is ignoring what I described to parrot the SOS as if you don't comprehend what I wrote.

You do, you're not stupid ... just stubborn. That's why you create a hypothetical premise and then try to attach the false narrative to what I previously wrote. I was very detailed in why your scenarios just don't and won't work with the current system. In effect, you're lying about what I stated.

To date, despite all the fear mongering BS the right wing bigots & control freaks have pushed in the media in the last 30 years, there has been no evidence of rampant voter fraud or non-citizen voting. Any occurrence has been what, less than .01%? And even THAT is cumulative!

If you still don't get it, here's how I explained it to one of your like minded brethren:https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...48#post4314348

TED CRUZ TO REPUBLICANS: LIMIT VOTING' BY ALL MEANS .. else we may never win another election. His words.

Yep, straight from the horses mouth...or in this case the other end!

Here's another documentation for our right wing rummies to deny:

https://www.visajourney.com/forums/...tage-foundation-i-dont-want-everyone-to-vote/

 

[blackascoal]

Yep, straight from the horses mouth...or in this case the other end!

Here's another documentation for our right wing rummies to deny:

https://www.visajourney.com/forums/...tage-foundation-i-dont-want-everyone-to-vote/

The link says everything that need be said about how republicans hate democracy AND the American people.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
You're such a mindless right wing parrot......ONLY the GOP has pushed for the situation I previously described...which severely contradicts the rantings of all you anti-gov't types, bleating about fascism and totalitarian control of the citizenry through nefarious means of tracking and cataloging. Yet now you want the very thing you ranting against. What, do you think that clowns that look like you won't be susceptible to unlawful search & seizure or surveillance if you get your way using fear mongering? Despite 30 years of bleating, you simpletons haven't produced any evidence of significant or rampant "non-citizen" voting, much less voter fraud in general


I asked you to provide proof of your previous assertion/insinuation against Biden in this regard. You can't. You're so busy just gainsaying against anything you perceive to be "lib'ral" that you make a complete ass of yourself without realizing it.

Laugh clown, laugh.

It’s an opinion lol.

Just like your opinion in the previous paragraph. This IS a debate board after all lol.

Naa-unnh, chuckles. The chronology of the posts clearly shows you taking umbrage with what I stated and thus tried to assert your statements as fact. You base your "opinion" on a false narrative...a matter of fact, a matter of history....therefore your subsequent speculations, assertions, supposition and conjecture are WRONG.

But rather than be intellectually honest and concede a point, you try to bluff with this time honored right wing BS. Pity that only sells with your like minded compadres and the man in the mirror.

Laugh, clown, laugh.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Yep, straight from the horses mouth...or in this case the other end!

Here's another documentation for our right wing rummies to deny:

https://www.visajourney.com/forums/t...ryone-to-vote/

The link says everything that need be said about how republicans hate democracy AND the American people.

 

[Darth Omar]

Naa-unnh, chuckles. The chronology of the posts clearly shows you taking umbrage with what I stated and thus tried to assert your statements as fact. You base your "opinion" on a false narrative...a matter of fact, a matter of history....therefore your subsequent speculations, assertions, supposition and conjecture are WRONG.

But rather than be intellectually honest and concede a point, you try to bluff with this time honored right wing BS. Pity that only sells with your like minded compadres and the man in the mirror.

Laugh, clown, laugh.

Well, your opinion is duly noted and will be filed in the appropriate container lol.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Naa-unnh, chuckles. The chronology of the posts clearly shows you taking umbrage with what I stated and thus tried to assert your statements as fact. You base your "opinion" on a false narrative...a matter of fact, a matter of history....therefore your subsequent speculations, assertions, supposition and conjecture are WRONG.

But rather than be intellectually honest and concede a point, you try to bluff with this time honored right wing BS. Pity that only sells with your like minded compadres and the man in the mirror.

Laugh, clown, laugh.

Well, your opinion is duly noted and will be filed in the appropriate container lol.

translation: Darth was proven wrong, yet doesn't have the intellectual maturitity, courage and honesty to concede a point. Pity that so many right wing wonks have the same problem on something as anonymous as this forum. A familiar tactic used by another right wing poster that I've dealt with for years. Fortunately for all, he got himself banned in all forms from several sites.


Laugh, clown, laugh.