7 dead in shootings at 3 massage parlors across metro Atlanta

Damocles said:
As I said, I do not believe you are ever honest in a debate, and you do not fail to deliver dishonesty.
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You're the one who blamed mental illness for gun violence, before readjusting the parameters later on.

But the problem is that by even invoking mental illness as an excuse for gun violence, you ended up inadvertently asking the question of how do we determine who is mentally ill before they get a gun?

The only way to do that is mandatory examinations that will result in many gun owners losing their guns.

You can't just toss off "mental illness" and then abandon that excuse when asked to contemplate how we address it....I mean you CAN, you'll just look like an asshole who doesn't want to have an honest discussion.
 
I think John Lennon tried to warn people that for some- HAPPINESS IS A WARM GUN- BANG BANG- SHOOT SHOOT!

Ironically and sadly, that is how he met his fate! It was almost as if he knew his own destiny!

The question now is- Are we raising people to grow up to be those kinds of people? Are we actually programming their minds to hate others and that guns are the answer when we don't get what we want- and when we want it?

I sure would like to know how this individual was raised and what influenced him to commit such a hateful crime!
 
LV426 said:
I mean that's all hearsay and possession is 9/10 of the law.

If the gun ain't in your possession anymore, it ain't you gun, is it?




Sure it is. A free check for your gun. Why would anyone turn that down?




But you don't need it, so why have it?

And I think it's foolish to say you would never sell, because you don't know what circumstances may arise that could prompt your sudden need for cash.

And just because YOU might not need the money, doesn't mean other people don't.

I don't see a whole lot of people turning down an overpayment for a gun. Particularly if their friends and neighbors did and put that money towards things like home renovations or a new car or something.

I think FOMO is a lot stronger than people give it credit for; I think that if a lot of people turn in their guns for cash early on, it will prompt others to do the same because people are natural followers with FOMO.




Yes, everyone has a price. Everyone.
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That is not how the law works otherwise a thief owns what he stole once they have it.....good grief.

It is not free I bought the product and if I can never replace it then it becomes priceless.

You will never get such a hypothetical buyback program passed and you know it.

No, but obviously you think you do have a price.
 
CASPER said:
LV426 said:
I mean that's all hearsay and possession is 9/10 of the law.

If the gun ain't in your possession anymore, it ain't you gun, is it?

Sure it is. A free check for your gun. Why would anyone turn that down?

But you don't need it, so why have it?

And I think it's foolish to say you would never sell, because you don't know what circumstances may arise that could prompt your sudden need for cash.

And just because YOU might not need the money, doesn't mean other people don't.

I don't see a whole lot of people turning down an overpayment for a gun. Particularly if their friends and neighbors did and put that money towards things like home renovations or a new car or something.

I think FOMO is a lot stronger than people give it credit for; I think that if a lot of people turn in their guns for cash early on, it will prompt others to do the same because people are natural followers with FOMO.

Yes, everyone has a price. Everyone.
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That is not how the law works otherwise a thief owns what he stole once they have it.....good grief.

It is not free I bought the product and if I can never replace it then it becomes priceless.

You will never get such a hypothetical buyback program passed and you know it.

No, but obviously you think you do have a price.
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LV426 is a lonely woman in search of a good, hard man. Unfortunately for her, I'm already taken. Next!

BTW, whoever takes up the challenge, but sure she knows your price up front. :)
 
CASPER said:
That is not how the law works otherwise a thief owns what he stole once they have it
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How can you prove the gun your kid sold to the cops is yours if the gun is not registered under your name, and you don't have possession of the gun?

And you would rat out your kid to the cops and press charges against them for taking your gun, selling it back, and then using that money to pay tuition or a medical bill?

Wow. Glad I'm not your kid.


It is not free I bought the product and if I can never replace it then it becomes priceless.
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No, it's not priceless, it has a price to it...that's the point of the buyback.


You will never get such a hypothetical buyback program passed and you know it.
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OK, well then the only other solution is to force every gun owner to get regular mental health evaluations since apparently, the only reason anyone would commit gun violence is because of ambiguous "mental illness."

And if you don't agree with that, then you can't say "mental illness" is the cause of gun violence if you're not willing to prevent mentally ill people from getting guns.


No, but obviously you think you do have a price.
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Well, I don't own guns, so this has nothing to do with me.

But if someone wanted to offer me $30K for my Lucille, I'd happily do that because Lucille is just a baseball bat wrapped in barbed wire.
 
Look folks...

If you truly believe that mental illness is to blame for gun violence in this country, then you have to support mandatory, annual or semi-annual mental health evaluations and exams for every single gun owner.

Because you can't predict who has a mental illness that will make them plan a mass shooting just by looking at them, so if mental illness is why these people do what they do, then every gun owner should have to submit to a mental health screening.

That is going to inevitably lead to more people losing their guns, and it will be the fault of those who blamed mental illness for gun violence.
 
This question goes out to anyone willing to answer, because Damo doesn't seem to want to answer it.

Does the NFA (National Firearm Act) which puts very strict limits on the ownership of fully automatic firearms count as "INFRINGEMENT" per the second amendment? Why or why not?
 
Mr.Badguy said:
This question goes out to anyone willing to answer, because Damo doesn't seem to want to answer it.

Does the NFA (National Firearm Act) which puts very strict limits on the ownership of fully automatic firearms count as "INFRINGEMENT" per the second amendment? Why or why not?
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That's a really good question. I would say no, since the Second Amendment is in reference to a militia, not individual gun ownership.
 
Damocles said:
True that. And you have to feel for Asian Americans right now.

My sister and her family aren't feeling all that safe nowadays with fearmongers telling them they are under attack, then this. Nothing has happened to her or her family (I asked, she's my sister), just vague stress from the news telling her that Asians are being attacked, then this happening too.
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I’m so sorry! I have two Asian nieces and their children. It really is awful for them.
 
Damocles said:
True that. And you have to feel for Asian Americans right now.

My sister and her family aren't feeling all that safe nowadays with fearmongers telling them they are under attack, then this. Nothing has happened to her or her family (I asked, she's my sister), just vague stress from the news telling her that Asians are being attacked, then this happening too.
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Huh.

So maybe all those folks calling COVID "The China Virus", or saying it was China who created it, or saying it was China who lied about, or saying it is China's fault, are probably having a negative effect on your Asian relatives, do you think?
 
LV426 said:
Huh.

So maybe all those folks calling COVID "The China Virus", or saying it was China who created it, or saying it was China who lied about, or saying it is China's fault, are probably having a negative effect on your Asian relatives, do you think?
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You mean the mainstream media before somebody decided to blame that on Trump specifically?

I think it is currently the media propounding an idea that is unsupported by evidence, then when any attack happens they get to further push a narrative regardless of the motivation of the killer.

The only person in the Administration waiting to judge is the President, and IMHO it is tongue in cheek as Psaki is out pushing the leftist political narrative rather than waiting to learn anything about the truth.
 
Damocles said:
You mean the mainstream media before somebody decided to blame that on Trump specifically?

I think it is currently the media propounding an idea that is unsupported by evidence, then when any attack happens they get to further push a narrative regardless of the motivation of the killer.

The only person in the Administration waiting to judge is the President, and IMHO it is tongue in cheek as Psaki is out pushing the leftist political narrative rather than waiting to learn anything about the truth.
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:laugh: when in doubt blame the TV
 
Bourbon said:
:laugh: when in doubt blame the TV
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I pretty much blame any folks for pushing a narrative rather than trying to learn the truth first. I will always, and I mean always, wait to learn the why of it before I simply jump to a conclusion like this.
 
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