The felons from Jan 6 should never legally carry a gun again.

[Dutch Uncle]

you're projecting your own cowardice upon the rest of us....

Bullshit, but expected since you're liar as proved multiple times yesterday. Who the fuck is "us"? You are your militia terrorists sitting around jerking off to the idea of the Turner Diaries?

The fact remains you are all talk. You brag about murdering Americans in order to topple the Federal government, but by your own admission you haven't done a single thing to make it happen.

 

[Into the Night]

look bro, there is something very wrong with your, perhaps just shut the fuck up and act like an adult, stop all the lying and other garbage and debate the topics.

Wow. You're asking a lot out of him!

 

[LV426]

what has the institution of government done?

Well, it provided you with diaper-to-diaper dependency for your entire fucking life.

You owe everything to the government because it was the government who employed you when no one else would.

It was the government who trained you when no one else would.

It was the government who fed, housed, and clothed you when no one else would.

It was the government who gave you health care when no one else would.

And it's the government who will put you in the ground and pay for your funeral when no one else would.

So that's what the institution of government has done, on a very personal level.

 

[Into the Night]

No reason to be if one isn't committing a crime such as plotting to commit mass murder by blowing up a Federal building.

Are you aiming to be a martyr? Get your name in the history books?

https://www.fbi.gov/history/famous-cases/oklahoma-city-bombing

McVeigh's bombing was an act of war, dumbass. A retaliation for the mass murder the federal government committed in Texas.

 

[Into the Night]

I expect most Americans have had enough of these murderous militia assholes and will push to have them investigated for criminal activities.

McVeigh wasn't militia.

 

[LV426]

ROFL............the above is stupidity nobody wants to argue with. You have ZERO conception of how the government works, yet you rant and clamor for government to work. you're kinda hopeless. but yes, lets continue with adhom ridiculousness in the hopes it diverts from your display of ignorance

Well, I guess you would know more about how the government works than anyone since every facet of your life is owed to government doing things for you when no one else would.

 

[LV426]

this is another clear display of your ignorance. Socrtease, who used to post here, was a LEFT LEANING libertarian.............so your assertion is clearly a lie

I can draw a direct line from the Klan through the JB Society, through Nixon, through the Moral Majority, through Gingrich, through Bush the Dumber, through the teabags, through MAGA.

Sometimes, it's the same fucking person, just switching labels.

Libertarians are the only people in the world who could smoke pot and still not be cool.

 

[LV426]

this is how you fail..........when you have to resort to delusional lies to make you feel better about your completely fucked up argument, you lose.

I'm just going by what you've already told me about yourself, man.

You owe everything to this government who was there for you when no one else was.

 

[American Man]

Right-wingers are ignorant and perpetually scared. This is a bad combination.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

The only one "servicing" me would the the doctor by providing me the service of health care.

You already pay for other people's health care when you pay an insurance premium, a deductible, or a payroll tax.

something you seem to be refusing to acknowledge. Things aren't the way you want them to be, just because you don't like the current way. You are forcing that doctor to provide you with his labor, or can you not see that?

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Right, and even with those lack of skills I still think you're owed a living wage.

That's the difference between us...you seek to put value on people, like slavery, and then measure their worth by that value.

That's why you're so lonely.

pffft, should someone whose only skill is flipping hamburgers be paid the same as someone roofing a house????

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Money.

again, you're wanting to force institutions to provide their service for free, or at taxpayers expense

You think it's wrong to protect the environment?

Weird flex, bro.

you dodged the question to avoid answering it. why?

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Tax cuts.

no, non genius. LOOPHOLES, created by those politicians YOU voted for.

I voted for Bernie in the primaries and have been a very vocal proponent of publicly-funded elections since I started posting on JPP in 2018.

I also support this John Lewis Voting Rights bill that puts publicly-funded elections in place for many races.

So I can back myself up, whereas the best you can do is cynically sit on the sidelines like a benchwarmer.

congress makes tax law. who did you vote for in your house and senate elections?

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Well, it provided you with diaper-to-diaper dependency for your entire fucking life.

no, it didn't. you wanting something to be true, doesn't make it true.

You owe everything to the government because it was the government who employed you when no one else would.

see above. I chose to go in to the Corps because I wanted to, not because I had nothing left.

It was the government who trained you when no one else would.

It was the government who fed, housed, and clothed you when no one else would.

It was the government who gave you health care when no one else would.

And it's the government who will put you in the ground and pay for your funeral when no one else would.

So that's what the institution of government has done, on a very personal level.

again, you needing something to be true, doesn't make it true. What I do now, the government did not train me for. I trained myself. the only things government trained me for was to control airplanes (something I dont do now) and to kill when ordered to. thats it.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Well, I guess you would know more about how the government works than anyone since every facet of your life is owed to government doing things for you when no one else would.

again, YOU wanting something to be true, doesn't make it true. you're starting to sound like a spoiled rotten child who always got what they wanted from mommy and daddy. I'm betting that you never really had to work hard a day in your life, did you?

 

[SmarterthanYou]

I'm just going by what you've already told me about yourself, man.

You owe everything to this government who was there for you when no one else was.

you are going by everything you want to believe is real, when i've very clearly explained to you that it isn't

 

[LV426]

something you seem to be refusing to acknowledge. Things aren't the way you want them to be, just because you don't like the current way. You are forcing that doctor to provide you with his labor, or can you not see that?

Do you...do you actually think that when you pay your insurance company a premium, that money is reserved specifically for you?

So if you don't go to the doctor at all in a year, do you think you get all those premiums refunded to you, or put in some kind of trust?

Well you wouldn't know shit about that because you get government-provided health care through the VA, don't you?

 

[LV426]

pffft, should someone whose only skill is flipping hamburgers be paid the same as someone roofing a house????

I don't know if they should be paid the same, but both should be paid at least a living wage.

 

[LV426]

again, you're wanting to force institutions to provide their service for free, or at taxpayers expense

We already pay for those services, we just don't have free-at-the-point-of-service.

We're asked to pay a surcharge on top of what we're already paying for state education.

Just because you were lucky enough for the government to pay for your education and training doesn't mean everyone else is as lucky.

you dodged the question to avoid answering it. why?

Well, if you don't protect the environment, then there's nowhere for you to live.

So your home gets flooded away, or burns to the ground, or is blown apart by a hurricane...where do you live?

It's either; do the work now and protect the environment, or do MORE WORK later on and lose the environment.

 

[LV426]

no, non genius. LOOPHOLES, created by those politicians YOU voted for.

No, it's tax cuts.

We had a budget surplus in 2000 that could have paid the debt off by 2010, but you insisted we cut taxes because "surpluses mean we're overtaxed", and promptly took a $236B surplus in 2000 and turned it into a $157B deficit by 2002.

Wasn't loopholes that did that, my dude.