It's amazing to me... all these pinhead retorts, and not once is it mentioned, alQaeda is not a signatory to the Geneva Conventions. Their "country" and "officials" can't be held to account for violations of a treaty they didn't sign. This means, the World Court can never hear a case for War Crimes against Bin Laden, or any other alQaeda member. The US did sign the GC, and they have upheld the standards of the GC for any enemy who is a signatory. This can't be said for many of our enemies and even some of our allies. People with guns and bombs, who were attempting to kill and maim US soldiers, were captured on the battlefield. Since they were not wearing a uniform, a prerequisite for GC POW protocols, they were deemed "enemy combatants" and detained. Mostly at Gitmo.
Liberals have bestowed GC protections upon these members of alQaeda, just as they have bestowed Constitutional rights, they deserve neither. We are not bound or obligated to give Constitutional rights to enemies of this country, and we are not bound to uphold the standards of the GC for non-signatories of the GC, who are not following GC protocol, and are not accountable to any other governing authority.
It's kind of like, if I bought a lottery ticket, then lost the lottery, and some other schmuck won the jackpot, but then, I come along and insist that since I purchased a ticket, I am entitled to a share of the jackpot. It's just completely devoid of common sense. alQaeda is not a nation, doesn't have a flag, doesn't have a president or government, doesn't have an embassy or capitol, and has contradicted the spirit of the Geneva Convention in about every way possible, but pinheads still believe they deserve to be treated as if they signed the GC and we're obligated to uphold it. Amazing!
And here we have a well-made point about how our techniques, while uncomfortable and unpleasant, are a far cry from the atrocities of the past from our enemies, and pinheads falling all over themselves to post "we don't torture people!" It's like there is a mental disconnect, they just don't seem to understand the distinction which makes something "torture" and why our techniques simply don't meet that criteria.
Then, there is this kind of stupid thinking...
The basic logic behind the pinhead notion that we shouldn't use harsh interrogation tactics, is that it will somehow protect Americans captured by our enemies. As if Abdul Mohamed is going to be the least bit concerned with this, as he sharpens his knife in preparation to behead a westerner. Yes, I am sure Zarqawi only took Nick Berg's head off, because we put panties on a Muslim's head....that makes sense! //sarcasm
Here is what is happening... We are using coercive interrogation techniques, none of which result in death or grave risk to life, in an attempt to extract intelligence information regarding terrorism, which specifically targets the US and our allies. We have only used this on a handful of the highest level alQaeda captives, and we have gained information which has indeed prevented terrorist attacks in the US and abroad.
This is what is happening with liberals, they have interchanged the word "terrorist" with "minority group" and gone into full radical '60s mode. To them, members of alQaeda are like members of the Black Panthers, and liberals can sympathize with their struggle and plight. Each time they see a person from the right, talk about "terrorist" they immediately come to the defense, because these "terrorists" are representative of all the oppressed minorities the left has always supported.
What is ironic, is these very people they are defending, are far more extreme 'right-wing-religious' than they have ever encountered. Imagine Pat Robertson with an AK-47! These cats are about 10x worse than that. These poor little Gitmo detainees you are fighting for, to give Constitutional rights to? They would saw the head off every homosexual in America, if they had the chance. You liberal, free-sex, free-love, fetus aborting, pro-choice, females out there... they would have your ass in a full length black hooded smock, and you would be walking two steps behind any male. THAT IS WHAT THEY BELIEVE! THAT IS WHY THEY ARE FIGHTING A JIHAD AGAINST US!
What is even MORE interesting, is watching the Obama administration grapple with the reality of the situation, after all the campaign rhetoric. Turns out, that "failed Bush policy" seemed to not be such a bad idea after all, to the Obama Justice Department. Many of those same "failed Bush policies" are now part of Obama Policy, and in some cases, enhanced and stepped up! It seems once Obama was briefed on what we were actually doing, and what was actually working, and how we were keeping America safe, he realized he couldn't change that. So now, we have his administration, doing a little tap dance for their loony left fringe base, who remain curiously silent about it here.