The felons from Jan 6 should never legally carry a gun again.

s, who Trump has already labeled criminals and lawless actors, will walk free?

The charges are substantial and might increase as more information is gathered by law enforcement. No doubt the FBI doesn't want to screw up a case on a technicality.

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No Trump supporter attacked anything.
 
1. The military cannot willy nilly decide to go fight somewhere or operate without orders from the commander in chief, who can't give orders without actionable intelligence from other civilian departments like CIA

Yet, the military does go out willy nilly and decide to fight somewhere and operate without orders from the CiC...we literally just lived through a 10 year war with Iraq that speaks to that very thing.


he Posse Comitatus act specifically prohibits the armed forces from acting as local law enforcement

OK, so then terrorism is a law enforcement issue, not a global war.

That also means the military doesn't protect us from terrorism.

And if the military doesn't protect us from terrorism, then why even fucking have it, and why are we in Iraq and Afghanistan today?


i'll ask again, would you prefer a military coup that ousts civilian officials so the military can protect the country to your satisfaction?

You've just told me that the military is incapable of protecting this country from terrorism.

So how would a military coup even result in more protection when they can't even protect us NOW?
 
LMAO!

Most of the people who fought WWII are now dead.

So? What does that have to do with tracking the actions of civilian leadership versus the United States military?

Seems you are now lying by omission because I caught you lying overtly.
 
There's 52 weapons charges listed here: https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases?combine=weapon

At least one person has 4 of the charges, a handful have two and a lot have a single weapons charge.

Any idea what all of these are likely to add up to when all is said and done? :

MILLER, Matthew Ryan
Civil Disorder; Obstruction of an Official Proceeding; Aiding and Abetting; Assaulting, Resisting, or Impeding Certain Officers Using a Dangerous Weapon; Entering and Remaining in a Restricted building or Grounds with a Deadly or Dangerous Weapon; Disorderly and Disruptive Conduct in a Restricted Building or Grounds with a Deadly or Dangerous Weapon; Engaging in Physical Violence in a Restricted Building or Grounds with a Deadly or Dangerous Weapon; Disorderlly Conduct in a Capitol Building; Act of Physical Violence in the Capitol Grounds or Buildings; Stepping, Climbing, Removing, or Injuring Property on the Capitol Grounds


And no gun.
 
Yet, the military does go out willy nilly and decide to fight somewhere and operate without orders from the CiC...we literally just lived through a 10 year war with Iraq that speaks to that very thing.

OK, so then terrorism is a law enforcement issue, not a global war.

That also means the military doesn't protect us from terrorism.

And if the military doesn't protect us from terrorism, then why even fucking have it, and why are we in Iraq and Afghanistan today?


You've just told me that the military is incapable of protecting this country from terrorism.

So how would a military coup even result in more protection when they can't even protect us NOW?

I am literally astounded that you seriously lack this knowledge and that you are steadfastly claiming what you are.

just astounded.
 
52 charges but 25 people have the charges against them. I trust your count.

I'm not a fucking lawyer, sea or otherwise, but I don't want to be in the shoes of those assholes. Trump threw them all under the bus and under the bus is where they are going to stay.

Why are you so intent on defending people who attack police officers, assaulted the Capitol and who Trump labeled as criminals and lawless actors?

1) These are not Trump supporters.
2) Trump did not call for violence.
3) No gun is involved.
 
Agreed on fair trails. It's in the Constitution.

After watching the videos of the Insurrection, I'm sure they are properly charged. A trial will determine their fates. Some will be offered plea deals.

Not an insurrection. Establishing a CHAZ zone by Antifa and BLM, that's an insurrection.
 
Yet, the military does go out willy nilly and decide to fight somewhere and operate without orders from the CiC...we literally just lived through a 10 year war with Iraq that speaks to that very thing.

OK, so then terrorism is a law enforcement issue, not a global war.

That also means the military doesn't protect us from terrorism.

And if the military doesn't protect us from terrorism, then why even fucking have it, and why are we in Iraq and Afghanistan today?

You've just told me that the military is incapable of protecting this country from terrorism.

So how would a military coup even result in more protection when they can't even protect us NOW?
I am literally astounded that you seriously lack this knowledge and that you are steadfastly claiming what you are.

just astounded.

LV426 is the flipside of you: She's female and far Left Wing. What you two have in common is putting emotion over logic.
 
The right to vote is not inherent.
The right to speech is.
The right to believe what you want to believe is inherent.

Bullshit, but I don't expect you to understand the meaning of inalienable rights or the fact the Bill of Rights limits the Federal government, not the rights of human beings.
 
*BIG SIGH*

Well, I only have the benefit of living as an adult in the 21st century, and that experience has never once proved the military defends and protects this country....

Wow. That's very illuminating. Solipsism? Some other weird philosophy where you believe the world didn't exist until you became an adult?

Also, I don't debate kids soooooo......
 
“Well regulated...”

No. Contextomy fallacy.

Let's look at the entire 2nd amendment:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

This amendment discusses two inherent rights, both related:

The right of a State to defend itself, as a free State, simply because it is a State. States defend themselves through the use of an army (a militia). Like most armies, it is regulated by that State. They are run by that State, for the purpose of a State defending itself.
The right of an individual to defend himself. This is simply because he is a living, breathing, thing. All animals have the right to defend themselves, using whatever means to do so.

Nothing in the Constitution ever granted the federal government the right to restrict guns or any other weapon. If it's not in the Constitution, THEY CAN'T LEGALLY DO IT.
The 2nd amendment is a SPECIFIC prohibition and reiteration to the federal government: HANDS OFF.

The 2nd amendment is also binding upon the States. The States agreed to this when they formed the Constitution or when they joined the Union. No State can prevent someone from obtaining a gun. No government can take away the right of self defense. That includes self defense by ANY WEAPON.

There is no clause in the 2nd amendment listing type of weapon, type of action, style of weapon, any brand name, number of cartridges in a magazine, size or type of ammunition, etc. The government is specially prevented from infringing on anything related to self defense, or the weapons used so, or the armies (or militia) used so.
 
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