The felons from Jan 6 should never legally carry a gun again.

LV426 said:
More people in cities and urban areas own guns than people in your neck of the woods, asshole.
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Omniscience fallacy. You don't get to speak for everyone. You are not God. You only get to speak for you.
LV426 said:
So if you want a Civil War, you're going to lose it, just like you lost the last one.
And unlike the last time, no one is going to kid gloves you afterwards.
You make empty and idle allusions and threats on JPP because you are a terrorist.
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Contextomy fallacy. No one is talking about a civil war other than you.
 
LV426 said:
They should also serve the maximum sentence for sedition...which is 20 years + a pretty hefty fine.

And if I was the family of the Capitol officer who was killed, I'd sue every single person caught on camera invading the building.
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He wasn't killed.
 
LV426 said:
I don't, but I have a pretty deadly crossbow and two very big dogs with lots of teeth. And my own "Lucille" (Google "Lucille Negan" and you'll see what I mean).

But overall, gross totals, more people in cities and urban areas own guns than in redneckville.
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Omniscience fallacy. You do not get to speak for everyone. You are not God. You only get to speak for you.
 
Into the Night said:
Omniscience fallacy. You don't get to speak for everyone. You are not God. You only get to speak for you.
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You're trying to speak for me right now, so you're employing the very same fallacy you accuse me of employing.


Contextomy fallacy. No one is talking about a civil war other than you.
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All you people have done over the last 12 months is talk about a Civil War.

You tried to launch one on 1/6; thankfully, it failed because you're all incompetent fascists.
 
LV426 said:
You're trying to speak for me right now,
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Lie.
LV426 said:
so you're employing the very same fallacy you accuse me of employing.
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Fallacy fallacy.
LV426 said:
All you people have done over the last 12 months is talk about a Civil War.
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Bigotry.
LV426 said:
You tried to launch one on 1/6;
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I have never tried to launch any civil war on any date.
LV426 said:
thankfully, it failed because you're all incompetent fascists.
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I am a conservative. Fascism is a form of socialism. It is what Democrats WANT.
 
Into the Night said:
Bigotry.
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What's bigoted about calling y'all out for trying to start a second Civil War?


I have never tried to launch any civil war on any date.
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By saying the election was stolen, you gave justification to the terrorists who tried to storm the Capitol and make Trump dictator.

How many times did you say the election was stolen in the last 6 months? A dozen? Two dozen? Three dozen?


I am a conservative. Fascism is a form of socialism. It is what Democrats WANT.
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"Conservatism stands athwart history, yelling STOP!"

That was written in 1955 by William F. Buckley, the Godfather of your Conservatism.

What happened in 1954-1955 that prompted Buckley to scream "STOP"? Brown v. Board of Education and the start of the Civil Rights Movement.

So yeah...Conservatism is fascism, it is racism, it is bigotry, it is anti-progress, it is anti-desegregation, it is reactionary.

So according to you, all those Conservatives attacking the Capitol on 1/6 with Confederate Flags, Nazi flags, Trump flags, and 6MWE shirts were secretly liberal socialists false flagging the US Capitol to make you personally look bad on an anonymous internet forum. Am I understanding you correctly?
 
T. A. Gardner said:
So, now it goes from a general case to a specific one (reducto ad absurdum). In the few cases where someone was charged with this, they likely will be prohibited. The mob there didn't kill any police officers. The one that was hospitalized died from non-riot related causes. So says the doctors, so says his family. None were "maimed" either. No police officers involved lost limbs, fingers, were disfigured, etc., the usual definition of maimed.

Charging a large crowd with the actions of a few within it won't fly the way say, being the get away driver for a bank robbery gets you charged with that crime. Prosecutors would have to show proximate cause--that is the person was present at the point where the crime happened and was reasonably knowledgeable of its occurrence. They can't charge someone say, a block away who knew nothing of this particular criminal event with being part of that event.
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The thread is about the insurrectionists, their crimes and felons carrying guns.

You already know felons can't have guns in most states and there are strong restrictions to allow them to do so.

Anyone convicted of assaulting a police officer is guilty of a felony. Am I wrong there? Is it just a misdemeanor?

What part am I guilty of misrepresenting?

This link details a general case of assaulting police officers: https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/crime-penalties/federal/Battery-on-Officer.htm

It notes that the crime may be a misdemeanor with up to a year in jail, but that varies by jurisdiction.
 
With 32 years experience in law enforcement, the only real felon I saw on January 6 was the person in the Capitol who shot an unarmed woman.
 
Jarod said:
If you participated in an armed insurrection on the United States Capitol, you should lose your right to carry a firearm for life.


Agreed?
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I am confused by Jarot's ignorance of the law.....

Federal law bans those who have been convicted of certain crimes from ever possessing firearms. Included in those crimes are all felonies and misdemeanor domestic violence offenses. (The law also prohibits those subject to domestic violence restraining orders from having a gun.) (18 U.S.C. § 922(g) (2013).)
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https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/can-someone-possess-gun-after-criminal-conviction.html
 
AProudLefty said:
That's what I don't get. It says "shall not be infringed" and yet we still infringe on people's right to own arms.
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If I may be so bold, but it springs from the majority of the population being more afraid of their fellow americans than it does the healthy fear of government overreach. Therefore, no right is absolute, All rights can be regulated, and if necessary, removed because you are more dangerous to our sensitivities than mass murder by government
 
Taft2016 said:
With 32 years experience in law enforcement, the only real felon I saw on January 6 was the person in the Capitol who shot an unarmed woman.
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in the mainstream world, government agents do no wrong, and on the off chance that they do, they can just give out some money to the family and all is well
 
SmarterthanYou said:
If I may be so bold, but it springs from the majority of the population being more afraid of their fellow americans than it does the healthy fear of government overreach. Therefore, no right is absolute, All rights can be regulated, and if necessary, removed because you are more dangerous to our sensitivities than mass murder by government
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So if a person wrecks his car recklessly, ending in injures and damages, should his right to drive and own a car be removed? I mean after all Americans' wittle fweelings are much more important than individual rights.
 
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