The true intent of the impeachment......

China Joe said:
Read, and learn.



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It's not difficult language to understand. Trump isn't in office, which is why the Chief Justice refused to participate. If this was a serious case, then this avenue shown in bold below would be pursued:
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There are some problems with your attempt to read the US Constitution.
When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside...
1. Trump was no longer the President as of Jan 20, 2021. The Chief Justice only presides for a President. Trump is not President so this does not apply. Your argument ignores the reality of who is President and therefore ignores what the meaning of the US Constitution. Any honest reading of this text would show that anyone that is not the current President is being tried it doesn't require the Chief Justice.

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.
2. Trump is not President so the penalty of being removed from office doesn't apply. This statement nowhere claims that only those people listed can be impeached. It only gives us the penalty someone holding office must receive if convicted. Since Trump is not a President the section doesn't apply since he can't be removed from office.

Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.
3.You don't get to ignore the subject of a sentence when trying to interpret the meaning of the sentence. Judgement is the subject of the sentence. That judgement is then modified to say it can't be further than a total of 2 options. There is no requirement that both options occur. There is also no requirement that even one of the options has to occur.

Meanwhile you completely ignore this part of the US Constitution -
The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments.
We are left with the word "all" here which has a very specific meaning which is pretty easy to understand. It means the Senate has the power to try each and every impeachment. There is no exception for impeachments where the person impeached is no longer in office.

It seems you do have difficulty with language and words.
Words and phrases that you can't seem to understand - "President", "shall not extend further than", and "all."
 
BartenderElite said:
Nope. That's not it at all.

I think it's kind of cute that there are still a few clinging to "massive voter fraud", though.
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They can't, for two reasons, one, Trump is the Messiah, so until he says it is so, they will never buy it, and second, to admit it was all just a lie would be admitting that Trump lied, and not only that they were played, not like that doesn't happen every day, but also that Trump is pretty much guilty of nearly everything he is being accused of this week

Not happening, if God descended upon the Earth and told them it was a fair and transparent election, they would still deny it, they will take it to their graves
 
BidenPresident said:
Any right wingers watching the trial? Or do you want your opinions to be ignorant about the facts?
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Im not bothering to watch one second of it....total waste of time. I already know how it ends anyway. It will be a total show trial, basically a Hollywood production,....it might swing a few people in the general public into believing the bullshit ,....but it will end without a conviction. Why watch when I already know the outcome?
 
Stone said:
Im not bothering to watch one second of it....total waste of time. I already know how it ends anyway. It will be a total show trial, basically a Hollywood production,....it might swing a few people in the general public into believing the bullshit ,....but it will end without a conviction. Why watch when I already know the outcome?
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Progressives seem to have a great deal of time to watch things. Conservatives are to busy working.
 
Stone said:
Like Russian piss tapes and POTUS being a Russian asset? Nawwww,....the D's never gave any of THAT any oxygen. :rolleyes:
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Precisely my point. The opposition gave it oxygen - Trump didn't.

Same w/ voter fraud. Why would Biden even consider giving it a perception of legitimacy by calling for an investigation? That's really laughable.
 
Stone said:
Im not bothering to watch one second of it....total waste of time. I already know how it ends anyway. It will be a total show trial, basically a Hollywood production,....it might swing a few people in the general public into believing the bullshit ,....but it will end without a conviction. Why watch when I already know the outcome?
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I see. You prefer to opine in ignorance.
 
BartenderElite said:
Precisely my point. The opposition gave it oxygen - Trump didn't.

Same w/ voter fraud. Why would Biden even consider giving it a perception of legitimacy by calling for an investigation? That's really laughable.
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Maybe its already being investigated? ;) Maybe not everyone is either bought and paid for, a partisan hack,.. or both?
 
Barfly said:
It's a baseless claim. You don't give oxygen to baseless claims, or legitimize them.
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Like the baseless claims that Bush stole the 2004 and 2004 elections?

Like the baseless claims that Trump was elected through Russian interference?

Like that?
 
Stone said:
Maybe its already being investigated? Maybe not everyone is either bought and paid for, a partisan hack,.. or both?
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You're dreaming. The illegitimate Skeletor regime is purging the entire government, including the military, of anyone who might question anything they've done.
 
It is disgusting watching the fascist assholes physically attack the cops and building breaking windows to rush into the building. I think they should all be hanged to death.
 
BidenPresident said:
It is disgusting watching the fascist assholes physically attack the cops and building breaking windows to rush into the building. I think they should all be hanged to death.
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The democrats rioting and looting? I agree. The only reason you might have given a rats ass about the protest at the Capital is you were worried about your future welfare checks.
 
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