Another Obama Nominee Has Tax Issues

tinfoil said:
well fuck you then! As someone who pays their taxes and has been under the gun by the IRS, I can wholeheartedly say you're a fucking idiot!
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Pay you're fucking taxes then dumbass. They paid theirs, why do you have to complain about doing what they've already done?
 
Onceler said:
For the duties of her job?

I knew a genius computer programmer at one time; guy was paid an absolute bundle. Eccentric as hell, and couldn't really dress himself. He had a whole closet full of the same pants & shirts, so he wouldn't have to give it any thought.

He was a basically incompetent dresser, but a genius computer programmer, who anyone would hire in a second.
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Conservatives would take a look at a page typed by Shakespeare, notice a single typo, and therefore declare him an idiot who has no skill due to an irrelevant error.
 
Superfreak said:
Add to that the fact that it is yet another example of a politician 'coming clean' AFTER they have been appointed.
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To be fair, if you were not audited would you review your taxes to make sure everything you did was on the up and up? I wouldn't. Once nominated she probably had someone go over the taxes and the issue came up.

What we're talking about here are 3 of 49 charitable contributions that lacked supporting paperwork and interest deductions erroneously claimed on a home after it was sold for less than the outstanding mortgage on it.

Daschle and Geithner were problems different in scope and magnitude. I'm not going to go crazy over this garbage.
 
Watermarx said:
Pay you're fucking taxes then dumbass. They paid theirs, why do you have to complain about doing what they've already done?
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they didn't pay their "mistakes" until they were getting appointed to a higher office..but since they be the guberment, I guess that be Ok and we shouldn't bitch..:rolleyes:
 
Superfreak said:
Slightly different. One... the computer programmer is good at computer programming.... and does that well (oddly enough I also know a computer genius that is really really bad with common sense and most other topics).

That said, she is being asked to run a department of the government. Which entails budgets, planning, paying attention to the details. Like I said, making a mistake one year is understandable. Doing so for three years is incompentent.
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And also, I may make tons of mistakes if I did my derivatives by hand (since I haven't practiced them), but it's irrelevant because I have a TI-89, and other skills are far more important. Sibelius has staff and fact checkers to do the nitty-gritty details.
 
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meme said:
they didn't pay their "mistakes" until they were getting appointed to a higher office..but since they be the guberment, I guess that be Ok and we shouldn't bitch..:rolleyes:
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They were treated with no favors. They were treated exactly like any other citizen. It's absurd to say differently, no matter what that lazy welfare check eating tax-cheat Tinfoil says.
 
Dungheap said:
To be fair, if you were not audited would you review your taxes to make sure everything you did was on the up and up? I wouldn't. Once nominated she probably had someone go over the taxes and the issue came up.

What we're talking about here are 3 of 49 charitable contributions that lacked supporting paperwork and interest deductions erroneously claimed on a home after it was sold for less than the outstanding mortgage on it.

Daschle and Geithner were problems different in scope and magnitude. I'm not going to go crazy over this garbage.
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I use Turbotax, which has an audit check and pretty well elminates the probability of making a mistake. That said, I am not going to go nuts over this either. I simply believe that it is incompetence on the part of someone who is being asked to head up one of the most messed up systems in the government.

I agree the others were of different magnitude.

But this is getting old. Which is why I agreed with your comment on wanting to see the other idiots in DC be audited.
 
Watermarx said:
They were treated with no favors. They were treated exactly like any other citizen. It's absurd to say differently, no matter what that lazy welfare check eating tax-cheat Tinfoil says.
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how many so far in this administration in just three months, has so innocently made a mistakes on their taxes..I think we are up to about what, eight, nine? and you think they would of least heard of H&R block..

I hope we make it through with this clownish and corrupt administration..
 
Watermarx said:
Uneducated?
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obviously you are uneducated or you'd be much wiser.

For instance, it's pretty obvious that taking a mortgage deduction for a house you no longer own is fraudulent and not a simple mistake. You have to be an uneducated moron to believe that it's possible to be mistaken about a house being yours or not.
 
Okay. Here goes. I'm going to try to care again:




Nothing. I'm really putting some investment into it, too...
 
Onceler said:
Okay. Here goes. I'm going to try to care again:




Nothing. I'm really putting some investment into it, too...
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Better sit on the toilet next time you try, you might give birth on accident.

I just laughed at the "Limbaugh is important" portion of Toby's comment. Post after post of how important he is to others...

This is a person who is being nominated to head up one of the most f-d up pieces of our federal system, who can't be bothered to fill out a tax form properly until it is suddenly important because they'll be looked at closely as they are being nominated to head up one of the most... well.. we're getting repetitive now.

This is a sign of the person's incompetence to begin with.
 
Damocles said:
Better sit on the toilet next time you try, you might give birth on accident.

I just laughed at the "Limbaugh is important" portion of Toby's comment. Post after post of how important he is to others...

This is a person who is being nominated to head up one of the most f-d up pieces of our federal system, who can't be bothered to fill out a tax form properly until it is suddenly important because they'll be looked at closely as they are being nominated to head up one of the most... well.. we're getting repetitive now.

This is a sign of the person's incompetence to begin with.
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Please. That's nonsense.
 
That really is nonsense, Damo. It tells me absolutely nothing about her ability to do the job.

It's just silly to make that reach.
 
Her incompetence and the vetting by administration. Links at site:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/03/kathleensebeliusanotherobamacabinetscofflaw.html

Now, Kathleen Sebelius, Obama's latest Health nominee, also reports back-tax errors
Maybe having back-tax problems is a new requirement to join the new White House administration. Today, news of more "unintentional errors" on back income taxes for another Barack Obama Cabinet nominee.

The Associated Press is reporting this afternoon that Kansas Democratic Gov. Kathleen Sebelius, the president's latest nominee to head the giant Health and Human Services Department, has divulged to a Senate committee that she has now paid in excess of $7,000 in back taxes plus $878 interest since her nomination.

Sebelius was actually a replacement Obama nominee for ex-Democratic Sen. Tom Daschle, who admitted paying about $140,000 in back taxes and penalties from recent years. Others, including Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, performance officer Nancy Kelleher and ex-Democratic Rep. and now Labor Secretary Hilda Solis, also had back-tax problems, which were paid up and disclosed after their nominations.

Kelleher, like Daschle, withdrew her name. The others were confirmed anyway.

AP reports Sebelius said her accountant uncovered the mistakes to her benefit while reviewing documents for her and her husband, Gary, a federal magistrate, in preparation for Senate hearings including this Thursday before the Finance Committee. The "unintentional errors" involved charitable and mortgage deductions, she said.

-- Andrew Malcolm
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Onceler said:
That really is nonsense, Damo. It tells me absolutely nothing about her ability to do the job.

It's just silly to make that reach.
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It does tell you about her. This is a second time that obvious changes are made at the last minute because of the nomination, changes that were not forthcoming beforehand.

It shows me (my opinion) that she knew they were filled out incorrectly and only is fixing it because of the scrutiny they would receive now that they otherwise would not.

It not only points to competence, but honesty as well. I wouldn't trust this person if they were a republican, and I'd certainly be sick of hearing how another nominee is facing these same issues.

If this were Bush it would be a sign of his incompetence trotted out at every opportunity.

When are these people going to learn to vet this beforehand?
 
Damocles said:
It does tell you about her. This is a second time that obvious changes are made at the last minute because of the nomination, changes that were not forthcoming beforehand.

It shows me (my opinion) that she knew they were filled out incorrectly and only is fixing it because of the scrutiny they would receive now that they otherwise would not.

It not only points to competence, but honesty as well. I wouldn't trust this person if they were a republican, and I'd certainly be sick of hearing how another nominee is facing these same issues.

If this were Bush it would be a sign of his incompetence trotted out at every opportunity.

When are these people going to learn to vet this beforehand?
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1) You have no basis to say that she knew that they were filled out incorrectly. As a matter of course the Senate asks nominees for three years of tax returns and, as a matter of course, the nominees review their prior three years of tax returns with an accountant to make sure that everything is squeaky clean. That's why these issues arise when they do. I mean, if you aren't audited do you review your prior tax returns to make sure every single thing is on the up and up?

2) Claiming that this is an error in vetting is equally nonsensical. Obviously, the Obama people knew about this. It wasn't discovered by the Senate. It was discovered by the nominee and reported to the Senate by the nominee who would obviously have Obama in the loop. The issue is whether these problems are deemed sufficient to derail a qualified nominee for the job. Obama says no and presses ahead with the nominations notwithstanding the tax issues. And in this case the Senate will end up confirming her.
 
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