Would I have stood with MLK?

It is a child's game made into an industry. How big itbis doesn't change what it is. Doesnt behavior have consequences? He protested and there are consequences. This stuff doesn't only happen in one direction does it?

Yep, there are consequences. Kaep lost his career as an athlete. MLK lost his life. Do you want Kaep assassinated too, to satisfy your sense of fairness?
 
In 1963 I did march with the blacks in Detroit. The protests actually took place in most major cities. The marches in Detroit took place for months before I saw MLK. I did not know who he was, but he was treated as being special. He had an entourage that appeared to be bodyguards. When I heard him talk, I was annoyed at his preacher type of speech. I am not religious. At one point I was about 5 ft away from him as he was being hustled to the stage.
I marched because black people have been mistreated for over a century and it is wrong. They are people just like anyone else and deserve equal rights and equal treatment.

If what we have isn't working, when will it work!?

Maybe the same old tired logic got us here.

Maybe giving Black an autonomous region is the solution!!??
 
How very wrong you are. He was seen in the 50s and 60s *exactly* as Kaep and/or the BLM movement is seen now by the RW racists. We all knew, both white and black, who he was trying to raise up. It wasn't us whites.
Kaep hates cops (pig socks) start there
he supports BLM -which tells us we are still reeling from slavery.

I dont know about this 30%.
I lived in a big city - and we generally supported civil rights, but I was a Democrat back then ..so who knows
 
In honor of MLK, I wanted to share this quote from Untamed by Glennon Doyle. “I imagined myself to be the kind of white person who would have stood with Dr. King because I respect him now. Close to 90 percent of white Americans approve of Dr. King today. Yet while he was alive and demanding change, only about 30 percent approved of him—the same rate of white Americans who approve of Colin Kaepernick today. So, if I want to know how I’d have felt about Dr. King back then, I can’t ask myself how I feel about him now; instead I have to ask myself: How do I feel about Kaepernick now? If I want to know how I’d have felt about the Freedom Riders back then, I can’t ask myself how I feel about them now; instead, I have to ask myself: How do I feel about Black Lives Matter now? If I want to know how I’d have shown up in the last civil rights era, I have to ask myself: How am I showing up today, in this civil rights era?”

"When I marched in the civil rights movement, I did not march with a 12-point program. I marched with tens of thousands of others to change attitudes. And we changed attitudes.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/03/us/politics/biden-1988-presidential-campaign.html
 
Oh, is this the Aunt Bea's Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is Show? lol

The only thing "different" I do is debate with RW morons who insist that BLM is violent, Marxist, antifa, blah blah blah by showing that they are wrong. Other than that I gift my g-kids with books and toys and dolls that don't favor white characters over non-white characters. And I treat my white g-kids the same as my mixed-race g-kids who self-identify as black. </virtue-signaling> lol

It's interesting to read the discussions on social media by black friends/acquittances on this topic. I share your belief that as individuals its incumbent upon us to treat all people with respect. The counter argument to that is black people specifically aren't given respect by society and the government.

One thing we often hear is we can vote for change. And that's true. But since Kaepernick is being discussed he took a lot of heat because he said he didn't vote. And he said he doesn't vote because voting supports an oppressive system. And from that perspective think of this last election (at the Presidential level). Your two choices were Trump and the guy who wrote the '94 crime bill which some black activists called The New Jim Crow. Not exactly inspiring options.

There's obviously no easy or simple answer.
 
If what we have isn't working, when will it work!?

Maybe the same old tired logic got us here.

Maybe giving Black an autonomous region is the solution!!??
getting urban blacks to vote their interest is the "solution"
The northern cities have failed despite yuge amounts of money put towards education, housing.
These morons keep doing the same thing and hoping for different outcomes

Trump imporoved the black vote to 17% -but that's still not going to help unless urban blacks wake up
 
Yeah the entire message seems to have been perverted. It's like when blacks say there hasn't been any "honest" conversation about race in America. By "honest" it appears that they mean bash white people but rarely does "honest" include looking the role of blacks.

If they wanted an honest conversation, they wouldn't claim racism every time blacks fall short of white success. They automatically assume discrepancies in a long list of things is due to racism. They fail to acknowledge that having a 75% bastard birth rate, a crime rate far greater than they make up in society, a drop out rate higher than any other group, and supporting Democrats does far more to harm them than any white person every could.
 
getting urban blacks to vote their interest is the "solution"
The northern cities have failed despite yuge amounts of money put towards education, housing.
These morons keep doing the same thing and hoping for different outcomes

Trump imporoved the black vote to 17% -but that's still not going to help unless urban blacks wake up

So, voting Republican would magically transform American Blacks!?
Oh really!?
 
How very wrong you are. He was seen in the 50s and 60s *exactly* as Kaep and/or the BLM movement is seen now by the RW racists. We all knew, both white and black, who he was trying to raise up. It wasn't us whites.

He wanted blacks to be judged by content of character. When you left wing white trash realized that would never happen, you started supporting programs that judged by skin color.
 
getting urban blacks to vote their interest is the "solution"
The northern cities have failed despite yuge amounts of money put towards education, housing.
These morons keep doing the same thing and hoping for different outcomes

Trump imporoved the black vote to 17% -but that's still not going to help unless urban blacks wake up

Government policies do matter. They are important. But ultimately change is going to come from within, not via the government. (And that comment isn't directed just at black people). Take white people, why do certain subsets of white people do better than others? What's emphasized in the community? What's emphasized in the home? Those things matter as much, or more, than government policy.
 
MLK said he hoped there would be a day when blacks were judged by the content of their character. What does Colin Kaepernicks behavior tell us about his character? He was paid millions of dollars to play a children's game but all the while referring to the people he would call if he was in danger, pigs.

when did he do that, lying cracker boy? got a source?
 
So, voting Republican would magically transform American Blacks!?
Oh really!?

Blacks have been voting for Democrats in overwhelming numbers for over 50 years. The government has taken the place of the father as shown by a 75% bastard birth rate. Blacks live in poverty at a percentage 2 1/2 x that of whites. The dropout rate for blacks is higher. And the list goes on. So, continuing to vote Democrat is going to solve those things?
 
In honor of MLK, I wanted to share this quote from Untamed by Glennon Doyle. “I imagined myself to be the kind of white person who would have stood with Dr. King because I respect him now. Close to 90 percent of white Americans approve of Dr. King today. Yet while he was alive and demanding change, only about 30 percent approved of him—the same rate of white Americans who approve of Colin Kaepernick today. So, if I want to know how I’d have felt about Dr. King back then, I can’t ask myself how I feel about him now; instead I have to ask myself: How do I feel about Kaepernick now? If I want to know how I’d have felt about the Freedom Riders back then, I can’t ask myself how I feel about them now; instead, I have to ask myself: How do I feel about Black Lives Matter now? If I want to know how I’d have shown up in the last civil rights era, I have to ask myself: How am I showing up today, in this civil rights era?”

do you stand with him now?

how about judging people by the content of their character rather than the color of their skin?
 
So, voting Republican would magically transform American Blacks!?
Oh really!?
where do you get magically? No but it would get rid of the corrupt Democratic big city machine politics
that have been proven beyond a doubt to utterly fail the black community.
That would at least bring in some accountability for city officials

I swear I used to laugh at "plantation mentality" - but there isnt any other way to look at it
since urban blacks (at least in the north) keep voting the same way
 
Blacks have been voting for Democrats in overwhelming numbers for over 50 years. The government has taken the place of the father as shown by a 75% bastard birth rate. Blacks live in poverty at a percentage 2 1/2 x that of whites. The dropout rate for blacks is higher. And the list goes on. So, continuing to vote Democrat is going to solve those things?

After Clinton's welfare reform nearly 28 years ago. Most Blacks aren't sitting around doing nothing & getting TANF.
In fact TANF is almost exclusively given to single mothers & really poor families to prevent homelessness of children.
It's also temporary only 5 years & I believe requires volunteer work.

The truth is post welfare reform nothing changed for Blacks.

The truth is the massive drop in racism didn't change Blacks.

It couldn't possibly be just Democrat policies.

Jamaica has even more out of wedlock births & higher murder rates than even African Americans.

Jamaica has very little if any social programs.

Jamaica makes East Saint Louis look rich.
 
Comparing kapernick to king shows a grows non-understanding of King's good works.

you make a good point...but you are glossing over WHILE MLK WAS BEING ARRESTED, PROTESTING, LEADING MARCHES, opinion polls of him and his protests were incredibly negative among white folks...but now, those same kind of overtly racist pigs act like MLK was right on, like the hypocritical bastards they are.

Most Americans Didn't Approve of Martin Luther King Jr ...www.newsweek.com › U.S. › MLK Day › Civil rights
Jan 15, 2018 — There was a time when Martin Luther King Jr. was not so popular with the American people. A Gallup poll from 1966 found that 66 percent of ...

Martin Luther King Jr.: Revered More After Death ... - Gallup Pollnews.gallup.com › poll › martin-luther-king-jr-revered-m...
Jan 16, 2006 — Martin Luther King Jr. was among the most admired people of the 20th century ... King had a more negative than positive rating in 1966, and did not appear as one of ... King appeared on this list only two times, in 1965 and 1964: ... Gallup measured the public's perception of King in a different fashion in the ...
 
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