The felons from Jan 6 should never legally carry a gun again.

Dutch Uncle said:
Federal prosecutors will offer deals to those with lesser direct offenses in exchange for them to roll on their cohorts and terrorist cell leaders.
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Michael Fortier was able to make a deal, and testify against Timothy McVeigh. Fortier got 12 years in prison without the possibility of early parole, and he was extremely grateful for that. He was facing far worse.

These terrorists could be facing 50 to 100 years in prison, or even the death penalty. A generous deal might drop that down to 10 years, or even two or three years. And with decades of monitored parole after that. Anything under a year that allowed them to ever legally own a gun would be a slap in the face of any form of justice. I don't care who they testify against, they have to keep their expectations realistic. The parole monitoring is also essential to keep them from owning guns on the sly.
 
Jarod said:
If you participated in an armed insurrection on the United States Capitol, you should lose your right to carry a firearm for life.


Agreed?
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Do you believe the same applies to last summer's *racial justice* protestors actually just reacting to the violent Democrat Lockdowns?

If not, you cannot be taken seriously.

Actually, even if so, you cannot be taken seriously.
 
Jarod said:
If you participated in an armed insurrection on the United States Capitol, you should lose your right to carry a firearm for life.


Agreed?
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Anyone who participates in an act of sedition should lose their right to vote and to carry fire arms.

According to the Joint Chiefs of America's armed forces, this riot was blatant act of sedition.
 
Cypress said:
Anyone who participates in an act of sedition should lose their right to vote and to carry fire arms.

According to the Joint Chiefs of America's armed forces, this riot was blatant act of sedition.
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I suggest rather than talking about it on an anonymous forum you get off your lazy ass and try to take what you say they shouldn't own.
 
Walt said:
Michael Fortier was able to make a deal, and testify against Timothy McVeigh. Fortier got 12 years in prison without the possibility of early parole, and he was extremely grateful for that. He was facing far worse.

These terrorists could be facing 50 to 100 years in prison, or even the death penalty. A generous deal might drop that down to 10 years, or even two or three years. And with decades of monitored parole after that. Anything under a year that allowed them to ever legally own a gun would be a slap in the face of any form of justice. I don't care who they testify against, they have to keep their expectations realistic. The parole monitoring is also essential to keep them from owning guns on the sly.
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Agreed. The murder charges will be interesting. I suspect most will be convicted of a felony that would deprive them of their Second Amendment rights.

In Texas, that restriction drops five years after their sentence but only applies to a home defense weapon which, IIRC, must stay inside the house.
 
CFM said:
I suggest rather than talking about it on an anonymous forum you get off your lazy ass and try to take what you say they shouldn't own.
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Were you on Parler, inmate? If someone posted "We're going to the Capitol to kill Democrats" and you replied ":thup:", then Congrats! You too are guilty of sedition! Enjoy your prize, asshole.

I strongly suggest that anyone who thinks they are guilty hire a fucking lawyer immediately with the plan to turn themselves in and plead for mercy. Anyone who runs or tries to destroy evidence (evidence which is already on DHS servers) will only end up in prison....again, in many cases.

The douchebag who sat in Nancy's charge already has prison time. At his age, 10-20 years is a life sentence.
 
War=Peace said:
Do you believe the same applies to last summer's *racial justice* protestors actually just reacting to the violent Democrat Lockdowns?

If not, you cannot be taken seriously.

Actually, even if so, you cannot be taken seriously.
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All criminals should be arrested and prosecuted. DO YOU AGREE?
 
SmarterthanYou said:
people should be thankful they weren't carrying guns that day. it would have turned out a whole lot differently
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Some were relieved of their weapons. Only a fucking moron goes armed to a Presidential COVID rally.

Furthermore, I strongly suspect the FBI will be looking for you, dude. I strongly suggest you get all you affairs in order....unless you are paper tiger and were never on Parler or Facebook preaching sedition and the murder of Americans as you did on JPP. Then you might only receive a slap on the wrist.

Have you ever been arrested before? Convicted of a crime? If it's a second or third offense, this could be very, very bad for you.
 
Jarod said:
If you participated in an armed insurrection on the United States Capitol, you should lose your right to carry a firearm for life.


Agreed?
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Interesting, all of them? can you list the felonies they are being charged with? so far, most have been misdemeanors which does not suspends ones rights....


The ones peacefully protesting on the steps, you want to strip them of their rights too or only the ones charged crimes, if the latter, felonies, or including misdemeanors?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Some were relieved of their weapons. Only a fucking moron goes armed to a Presidential COVID rally.

Furthermore, I strongly suspect the FBI will be looking for you, dude. I strongly suggest you get all you affairs in order....unless you are paper tiger and were never on Parler or Facebook preaching sedition and the murder of Americans as you did on JPP. Then you might only receive a slap on the wrist.

Have you ever been arrested before? Convicted of a crime? If it's a second or third offense, this could be very, very bad for you.
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He is right, it would have turned out differently. For the guys with the guns. Sadly, I suspect we're going to find out what that would look like. And lots of cult members will be dead, the rest in jail.
 
I don't want the USA to have a thought police. In that regard and applied to the matter at hand, some cult fool who
simply of his own accord and disassociated from a "movement" that actually acts upon it, types "attack the government to keep Trump," I don't think there should be criminal
consequences for that. Where I personally draw my line is when a person coalesces with others, supports a criminal
undertaking and does some act in furtherance of what is thereafter attempted. And I believe one or two here actually stated
facts that crossed my line on that matter by insinuating they were "in the know" about the attack that subsequently occurred.
 
Micawber said:
I don't want the USA to have a thought police. In that regard and applied to the matter at hand, some cult fool who
simply of his own accord and disassociated from a "movement" that actually acts upon it, types "attack the government to keep Trump," I don't think there should be criminal
consequences for that. Where I personally draw my line is when a person coalesces with others, supports a criminal
undertaking and does some act in furtherance of what is thereafter attempted. And I believe one or two here actually stated
facts that crossed my line on that matter by insinuating they were "in the know" about the attack that subsequently occurred.
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In retrospect, those claims, which are usually braggadocio, may have some validity if the discussions on Parler were as open as they appear to have been. At the very least, it would be warranted for those individuals to be questioned about whether they actually had credible information. I would not be shocked if that happened. This investigation is unprecedented, and if anything else happens, it will ratchet up another five notches.
 
War=Peace said:
Do you believe the same applies to last summer's *racial justice* protestors actually just reacting to the violent Democrat Lockdowns?

If not, you cannot be taken seriously.

Actually, even if so, you cannot be taken seriously.
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1) Those were not armed insurrection.
2) If you participated in the violent portions of either event, you should never ever be allowed to own a firearm again.
 
CFM said:
Do you have proof that they were carrying?
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I think there is at least one photo of a guy in the capitol with a firearm.

It does not matter to me, as we saw, a fire extinguisher can be used as a deadly weapon.
 
Bull&Terrier said:
Interesting, all of them? can you list the felonies they are being charged with? so far, most have been misdemeanors which does not suspends ones rights....


The ones peacefully protesting on the steps, you want to strip them of their rights too or only the ones charged crimes, if the latter, felonies, or including misdemeanors?
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On the steps? Yes, they were committing a crime (Trespassing), participating in a joint effort that murdered at least one police officer.
 
Jarod said:
On the steps? Yes, they were committing a crime (Trespassing), participating in a joint effort that murdered at least one police officer.
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So you think that standing on the steps of the capitol to petition the government for redress, which may included misdemeanor trespassing or disorderly conduct summonses, those people should have thier civil rights, aka the right to own a firearm revoked?


I guess protesting is no longer "what democracy looks like".



I find your position extremist and bordering fascist.
 
Concart said:
He is right, it would have turned out differently. For the guys with the guns. Sadly, I suspect we're going to find out what that would look like. And lots of cult members will be dead, the rest in jail.
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A bunch of dead terrorists laying in the streets of capitals across the US would be an improvement. "Some people need killing" and that rule always applies to terrorists regardless of skin-tone, nationality or religion.
 
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