'My ideals are driven by my faith' - Senator Warnock

RB 60 said:
Isn't it what a number of our laws are based on?
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I do not think we have any laws which could be construed as the promotion of any one religion.

The Christian left may promote the social gospel of the New Testament. But being charitable to the infirm, elderly, and poor is a universal value of all religions and intellectual traditions.

On the flipside, laws to teach creation science in public schools is an obvious attempt by the government to privilege Christianity and an Old Testament world view.
 
anatta said:
not at ALL
I use rules of evidence. Politically Warnock is "not guilty" -and I would never vote agaisnt him just for that.

He's a carpet bagger from Maryland -start there.
He's an American hater like Rev Wright
Warnock hosted Jeremiah Wright as guest preacher in 2014
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/raphael-warnock-jeremiah-wright-guest-preacher
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Um dude

Didn’t you figure out what appealing to the racists as your voting base didn’t work?

Or are you just going to keep stabbing your party to death with the danger of racism


Annatta: just keep stabbing, just keep stabbing, just keep stabbing
 
I have zero "faith' in faith-based crusades.
I'm hoping for Warnock to show some serious secular capability while doing the necessary faith posturing that he has to do for his black church-lady constituency.
In any case, he'll be a huge improvement over Ms. Loeffler...or else we're fucked.

I have more hope for the Jewish kid. He seems OK.
 
evince said:
Um dude

Didn’t you figure out what appealing to the racists as your voting base didn’t work?

Or are you just going to keep stabbing your party to death with the danger of racism


Annatta: just keep stabbing, just keep stabbing, just keep stabbing
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You are the most morbid, hateful, Psycho here.

But, I guess you earn brownie points for standing against racism.
( rolls eyes)
 
Cypress said:
I do not think we have any laws which could be construed as the promotion of any one religion.

The Christian left may promote the social gospel of the New Testament. But being charitable to the infirm, elderly, and poor is a universal value of all religions and intellectual traditions.

On the flipside, laws to teach creation science in public schools is an obvious attempt by the government to privilege Christianity and an Old Testament world view.
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I said based on, not promotion. Wouldn't you think some of our laws are based on a few other religions as well?

I didn't dispute that.

It it then OK to teach evolution but not creationism? If so, why one and not the other?
 
RB 60 said:
I said based on, not promotion. Wouldn't you think some of our laws are based on a few other religions as well?

I didn't dispute that.

It it then OK to teach evolution but not creationism? If so, why one and not the other?
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I do not doubt that when legislators pass laws they can, and will be, informed by their faith and moral values.

That seems self evident to me.

It does not trod on the first amendment, as long as the government does not privilege one religion over others.

Evolutionary theory based on natural selection represents the current state of scientific knowledge.

Teaching creationism as a scientific theory is a thinly veiled attempt to privilege Protestant fundamentalism over the beliefs of other religions. That is established case law.

Creationism can be taught in Sunday schools, divinity schools, or in the context of a comparative religion class.
 
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Cypress said:
I do not doubt that when legislators pass laws they can, and will be, informed by their faith and moral values.

That seems self evident to me.

It does not trod on the first amendment, as long as the government does not privilege one religion over others.

Evolutionary theory based on natural selection represents the current state of scientific knowledge.

Teaching creationism as a scientific theory is a thinly veiled attempt to privilege Protestant fundamentalism over the beliefs of other religions. That is established case law.

Creationism can be taught in Sunday schools, divinity schools, or in the context of a comparative religion class.
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You may have "evolved" from apes, but I sure as hell have not. There's absolutely NO proof I was. NONE. If creationism shouldn't be taught, then evolution should NOT be taught in schools either. Period. Are you gonna tell blacks they are apes? I'd be called a racist if I'd say that, now wouldn't I?
 
Cypress said:
I do not doubt that when legislators pass laws they can, and will be, informed by their faith and moral values.

That seems self evident to me.

It does not trod on the first amendment, as long as the government does not privilege one religion over others.

Evolutionary theory based on natural selection represents the current state of scientific knowledge.

Teaching creationism as a scientific theory is a thinly veiled attempt to privilege Protestant fundamentalism over the beliefs of other religions. That is established case law.

Creationism can be taught in Sunday schools, divinity schools, or in the context of a comparative religion class.
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RB 60 said:
You may have "evolved" from apes, but I sure as hell have not. There's absolutely NO proof I was. NONE. If creationism shouldn't be taught, then evolution should NOT be taught in schools either. Period. Are you gonna tell blacks they are apes? I'd be called a racist if I'd say that, now wouldn't I?
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^ You do not understand evolutionary theory.

Homo sapiens are not descended from apes.

Humans, chimpanzees, and bonobos are completely separate evolutionary lineages who descended from a common primate ancestor that existed 6 to 8 million years ago.

It is even stretching it to say chimpanzees are remote and very distant cousins to homo sapiens, even if our DNA is 98% identical.

Even the greatest Christian thinker in history - Saint Augustine - said that our interpretations of the bible are provisional. He maintained our interpretations of the bible should always keep pace with human knowlege of natural philosophy and the natural world. Outside of fundamentalist Protestants, all mainline and reformed Protestant denominations, and the Roman Catholic Church accept the basic tenets of Darwinian evolutionary theory.

The only science which be taught as science are those fields of knowedge which legitimately use the scientific method, are based on inductive reasoning, and provide verifiable results through experimentation and observation
 
Cypress said:
^ You do not understand evolutionary theory.

Homo sapiens are not descended from apes.

Humans, chimpanzees, and bonobos are completely separate evolutionary lineages who descended from a common primate ancestor that existed 6 to 8 million years ago.

It is even stretching it to say chimpanzees are remote and very distant cousins to homo sapiens, even if our DNA is 98% identical.

Even the greatest Christian thinker in history - Saint Augustine - said that our interpretations of the bible are provisional. He maintained our interpretations of the bible should always keep pace with human knowlege of natural philosophy and the natural world. Outside of fundamentalist Protestants, all mainline and reformed Protestant denominations, and the Roman Catholic Church accept the basic tenets of Darwinian evolutionary theory.

The only science which be taught as science are those fields of knowedge which legitimately use the scientific method, are based on inductive reasoning, and provide verifiable results through experimentation and observation
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If one shouldn't be taught, the other shouldn't be either. There is no proof of either, so stick your evolution up your ass.
 
Cypress said:
^ You do not understand evolutionary theory.

Homo sapiens are not descended from apes.

Humans, chimpanzees, and bonobos are completely separate evolutionary lineages who descended from a common primate ancestor that existed 6 to 8 million years ago.

It is even stretching it to say chimpanzees are remote and very distant cousins to homo sapiens, even if our DNA is 98% identical.

Even the greatest Christian thinker in history - Saint Augustine - said that our interpretations of the bible are provisional. He maintained our interpretations of the bible should always keep pace with human knowlege of natural philosophy and the natural world. Outside of fundamentalist Protestants, all mainline and reformed Protestant denominations, and the Roman Catholic Church accept the basic tenets of Darwinian evolutionary theory.

The only science which be taught as science are those fields of knowedge which legitimately use the scientific method, are based on inductive reasoning, and provide verifiable results through experimentation and observation
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RB 60 said:
If one shouldn't be taught, the other shouldn't be either.

There is no proof of either, so stick your evolution up your ass.
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strictly speaking, science does not prove anything...

You mistakenly thought evolutionary theory held that we descended from apes.

So you do not know enough about evolutionary theory to assert whether or not there is insufficient scientific confirmation of it.
 
Elected senator twice in Georgia, and I am speculating he is a possible contender for the Dem 2024 presidential nomination.

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