Thomas Sowell is the man!

Primavera said:
That's a great film proving that Burt Lancaster and Tony Curtis could really act given a good script. Clifford Odets was a fantastic writer. He was the real life inspiration for the marvellous Coen Brothers' film Barton Fink.
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You are so fucking educated, I would love to know the back story on how that happened.
 
Primavera said:
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You can't play if you don't read carefully and comprehensively, genius. You just scanned the net for the first gain saying, but you have NO comprehension of it's content.

Kapocsi, like you and your brethren, creates his own narrative/philosophy without directly addressing Thagard's key point(s) as to why Peterson's views are wrong: Case in point, Thagard writes: First, different religions have different prescriptions, and Peterson gives no argument why Christianity is morally superior to Islam, Hinduism, or dozens of alternatives. Even within Christianity, there is much disagreement among Catholics, Protestants, and Mormons. For morality to be based on religion, you need to be able to make a reasonable decision concerning which religion to choose. Nowhere does Kapocsi directly address Peterson's take like Thagard does. In effect, it's the old right wing shuffle....dimiss what others say, create your own version and use that to show (indirectly) how others are wrong. Kapocsi seeks to speak/interpret for Peterson, while Thagard works on what Peterson has written and explained.

Once again, you praise those who tell you what you want to hear, critical thinking be damned. Carry on.
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The caste system is a part and parcel of the Hindu religion matey, didn't you know that? Maybe you should go do some travelling rather than being holed up in NYC all your life? As for Islam, Salifism has precious little to teach the world except anger, violence, death and destruction. However Sufism does have something to recommend it, with its gentle nature and love of dance and music. In fact everything that Salifis detest. The Arabs were carrying on the Indian and Greek scientific traditions until Islam closed it down for many centuries.
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I love it when folk like you, willfully ignorant (or genuingly ignorant) of a subject just proudly blather on and on. Do some honest research regarding the Catholic Church in England, Spain, Portugal, etc. and how it rode the back of colonialism and imperialism in the "new worlds". Hell, I could start a whole thread on what they did to the American Native (North and South) nations, or start one as to what went down with Austrailia's aboriginal people, etc. But my point is to affirm the validity of Thagard's point: one has to give a reasonable argument asserting on any level the moral superiority of one religion over the other. Peterson doesn't do this, and Kapocsi doesn't directly address Peteson's failure to do so. To dumb it down for your UK condescending ass, the Christianity has no more or less bad qualities and history than other religions (i.e., slavery, misogyny, imperialism). You'd know this IF you did ANY HONEST review of the Old Testament.

My previous post stands valid, as my original assessment of Sowell on this thread. Carry on.
 
Taichiliberal said:
I love it when folk like you, willfully ignorant (or genuingly ignorant) of a subject just proudly blather on and on. Do some honest research regarding the Catholic Church in England, Spain, Portugal, etc. and how it rode the back of colonialism and imperialism in the "new worlds". Hell, I could start a whole thread on what they did to the American Native (North and South) nations, or start one as to what went down with Austrailia's aboriginal people, etc. But my point is to affirm the validity of Thagard's point: one has to give a reasonable argument asserting on any level the moral superiority of one religion over the other. Peterson doesn't do this, and Kapocsi doesn't directly address Peteson's failure to do so. To dumb it down for your UK condescending ass, the Christianity has no more or less bad qualities and history than other religions (i.e., slavery, misogyny, imperialism). You'd know this IF you did ANY HONEST review of the Old Testament.

My previous post stands valid, as my original assessment of Sowell on this thread. Carry on.
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Most English aren't Catholic.
 
RomanDmowski said:
Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
I love it when folk like you, willfully ignorant (or genuingly ignorant) of a subject just proudly blather on and on. Do some honest research regarding the Catholic Church in England, Spain, Portugal, etc. and how it rode the back of colonialism and imperialism in the "new worlds". Hell, I could start a whole thread on what they did to the American Native (North and South) nations, or start one as to what went down with Austrailia's aboriginal people, etc. But my point is to affirm the validity of Thagard's point: one has to give a reasonable argument asserting on any level the moral superiority of one religion over the other. Peterson doesn't do this, and Kapocsi doesn't directly address Peteson's failure to do so. To dumb it down for your UK condescending ass, the Christianity has no more or less bad qualities and history than other religions (i.e., slavery, misogyny, imperialism). You'd know this IF you did ANY HONEST review of the Old Testament.

My previous post stands valid, as my original assessment of Sowell on this thread. Carry on.
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Most English aren't Catholic.
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Protestantism is a denomination of Christianity. My apologies if I didn't make that distinction earlier.
 
Taichiliberal said:
I love it when folk like you, willfully ignorant (or genuingly ignorant) of a subject just proudly blather on and on. Do some honest research regarding the Catholic Church in England, Spain, Portugal, etc. and how it rode the back of colonialism and imperialism in the "new worlds". Hell, I could start a whole thread on what they did to the American Native (North and South) nations, or start one as to what went down with Austrailia's aboriginal people, etc. But my point is to affirm the validity of Thagard's point: one has to give a reasonable argument asserting on any level the moral superiority of one religion over the other. Peterson doesn't do this, and Kapocsi doesn't directly address Peteson's failure to do so. To dumb it down for your UK condescending ass, the Christianity has no more or less bad qualities and history than other religions (i.e., slavery, misogyny, imperialism). You'd know this IF you did ANY HONEST review of the Old Testament.

My previous post stands valid, as my original assessment of Sowell on this thread. Carry on.
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Sowell is a great man, you not so much! You don't like him because he tells blacks to stop whining all the time, get educated and stop blaming everything on whitey!

Oh and by the way, you should change that history book to one that describes how Henry VIII implemented the dissolution of the monasteries and tortured and murdered many Catholic monks. Apparently you've never heard of the Reformation and the Enlightenment either, let me know when Salifi Muslims do the same and realise it's no longer the 7th century. In India, Modi came to power riding on the back of Hindu nationalism.
 
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Primavera said:
Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
I love it when folk like you, willfully ignorant (or genuingly ignorant) of a subject just proudly blather on and on. Do some honest research regarding the Catholic Church in England, Spain, Portugal, etc. and how it rode the back of colonialism and imperialism in the "new worlds". Hell, I could start a whole thread on what they did to the American Native (North and South) nations, or start one as to what went down with Austrailia's aboriginal people, etc. But my point is to affirm the validity of Thagard's point: one has to give a reasonable argument asserting on any level the moral superiority of one religion over the other. Peterson doesn't do this, and Kapocsi doesn't directly address Peteson's failure to do so. To dumb it down for your UK condescending ass, the Christianity has no more or less bad qualities and history than other religions (i.e., slavery, misogyny, imperialism). You'd know this IF you did ANY HONEST review of the Old Testament.

My previous post stands valid, as my original assessment of Sowell on this thread. Carry on.
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Sowell is a great man, you not so much! You don't like him because he tells blacks to stop whining all the time, get educated and stop blaming everything on whitey!

Oh and by the way, you should change that history book to one that describes how Henry VIII implemented the dissolution of the monasteries and tortured and murdered many Catholic monks. Apparently you've never heard of the Reformation and the Enlightenment either, let me know when Salifi Muslims do the same and realise it's no longer the 7th century. In India, Modi came to power riding on the back of Hindu nationalism.
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Ahh the right wing shuffle strikes again! Note, dear readers, how Primo leads off with a classic right wing mantra to support his token hero. Forget the FACT that to date Primo cannot logically or factually fault my initial take down of Sowell's swill, much less the links I provided were others go into a bit more detail as to Sowell's glaring errors. Nope, our neocon from across the waves just wallows in the usual bigoted assessment of anyone who challenges his comfort zone .

As for your response regarding Thagard's deconstruction of Peterson's religious takes and my follow up ... you apparently think repetition will some how make your contentions viable and my point invalid.

They don't. See, all you've done is to continue in the vein of saying the history of practiced Christianity in the world is morally superior to all others. :palm:

Please learn to read carefully and comprehensively (damn, I get tired of repeating that to you right wing wonks); I stated ...." Do some honest research regarding the Catholic Church in England, Spain, Portugal, etc. and how it rode the back of colonialism and imperialism in the "new worlds". Hell, I could start a whole thread on what they did to the American Native (North and South) nations, or start one as to what went down with Austrailia's aboriginal people, etc. ... Christianity has no more or less bad qualities and history than other religions (i.e., slavery, misogyny, imperialism)" Note that I should have specified the Protestants in England, being that Protestantism is just a denomination of Christianity., but I digress. The point stands valid...you just don't have the intellectually honest cojones to concede to it. I could school you on what was done to native Americans and Australian aborigines in the name of "christianity", but it would be wasted on an insipidly stubborn sort like yourself.

As for your hero Sowell, one of his first forays into intellectual discourse was as a Marxist....he moved to the fantasy of the "free market Americana" later on....guess the pay was better. Sit on that for awhile, toodles.
 
Primavera said:
Sowell is a great man, you not so much! You don't like him because he tells blacks to stop whining all the time, get educated and stop blaming everything on whitey!

Oh and by the way, you should change that history book to one that describes how Henry VIII implemented the dissolution of the monasteries and tortured and murdered many Catholic monks. Apparently you've never heard of the Reformation and the Enlightenment either, let me know when Salifi Muslims do the same and realise it's no longer the 7th century. In India, Modi came to power riding on the back of Hindu nationalism.
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Sowell is a clown. An Uncle Tom kind of clown.
 
Primavera said:
Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Poor Primo.....an insipidly stubborn, sad little right wing wonk. What he can't BS past he just ignores and just double downs on myopic, one sided sound bites like the 3rd rate propagandist he is.

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...97#post4105897

Say goodnight, Gracie.
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Wow, you're just a clichebot and a badly programmed one at that!
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Wow, you actually are dim enough to think people can't follow the chronology of the posts to validate what I say. You can have the last word, as it makes you all the more foolish to the objective reader.

Goodnight, Gracie.
 
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The best method, over time, to cut poverty is homeownership. The Dems have been fighting to help black ownership. Repubs fight it.The Dems have always fought for raising the min wage. Even rightys on this board can figure out how that will impact those at the bottom of the food chain. Rightys stop it from raising.Sowell is full of shit.
 
Nordberg said:
The best method, over time, to cut poverty is homeownership. The Dems have been fighting to help black ownership. Repubs fight it.The Dems have always fought for raising the min wage. Even rightys on this board can figure out how that will impact those at the bottom of the food chain. Rightys stop it from raising.Sowell is full of shit.
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You might want to look in the mirror before calling someone else full of sh*t based on what you just wrote. Can you point to any study that shows home ownership increasing because of minimum wage increases?

And have you completely forgotten the driver of the financial crisis, loans to low income people who couldn't really afford them to buy houses?

And what's most laughable, since you made your post partisan, is the most progressive areas have the highest costs of housing because of the NIMBYism. Who do you think gets hurt most when well to do, and largely white, communities block new development? Working class folks which includes a good number of black folks. Raising the minimum wage means nothing when housing costs are sky high.

You want to increase home ownership? Build more housing to bring costs down.
 
cawacko said:
Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
The best method, over time, to cut poverty is homeownership. The Dems have been fighting to help black ownership. Repubs fight it.The Dems have always fought for raising the min wage. Even rightys on this board can figure out how that will impact those at the bottom of the food chain. Rightys stop it from raising.Sowell is full of shit.
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You might want to look in the mirror before calling someone else full of sh*t based on what you just wrote. Can you point to any study that shows home ownership increasing because of minimum wage increases?

And have you completely forgotten the driver of the financial crisis, loans to low income people who couldn't really afford them to buy houses?

And what's most laughable, since you made your post partisan, is the most progressive areas have the highest costs of housing because of the NIMBYism. Who do you think gets hurt most when well to do, and largely white, communities block new development? Working class folks which includes a good number of black folks. Raising the minimum wage means nothing when housing costs are sky high.

You want to increase home ownership? Build more housing to bring costs down.
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Ummm, Wack? He didn't exactly say what you accused him of in your first sentence. "Black ownership" incorporates business, homes, apartments. Minimum wage is part of the deal to a small extent, but not the WHOLE deal.

That you would refer to the right wing lie that the CRA was the culprit of the financial crisis and not large bank chicanery shocks me. You know better (or should).

That's all.
 
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