Yes Solitary, There IS a Black and White...

LOL... I ain't sucking titty at all. But I can see how you would draw such an analogy... being you're all about the Porkulus Stimuli Administration! Nuzzle on up to that titty there, Maine! Suck away!!

the GOP is in the wilderness.... I hope you brought your coleman lamp.:cof1:
 
Pro-Choice...Pro-Life...Black or White!

Really, Is being Pro Life against abortion under any circumstance really pro life when it gaurentees some women will die that do not want to and could choose otherwise? Do fetuses have choices? Do they have a say in the matter? Is it really a choice to have an abortion if you know having the baby will kill or horribly maim you? Is it ok when you know it won't?

Pro-Gay-Marriage...Anti-Gay-Marriage....Black or White!
Am I pro gay marriage if I'm for civil unions which gives them the exact same rights but doesn't use the term marriage? Is that a principled stance for my religious belief or is it moral cowardice? Aren't the arguments against gay marriage the same as those that were used against interacial marriage? If you're opposed to gay marriage does that make you, by proxy, opposed to interacial marriage since it is the same logic? Either way wouldn't you be a bigot?

Pro-Gun...Gun Control...Black or White!

Are you for gun control if you don't think private individuals shouldn't be able to buy an M-1 tank or a 50 mm howitzer or claymores? Are you really pro gun if you allow mentally ill or emotionally disturbed or mentally retarded people access to guns and military style weapons?

Pro-Government...Less Government...Black or White!
There's something fundamentally wrong with this statement. What's wrong with being pro-government? What's right with less government? Is it good to believe in less government if it means less services such as building roads and bridges and hospitals and schools? Is it good to believe in less government if it means a small handfull of plutocrats rule our lives with out appropriate levels of checks and balances? Is it good to believe in less government if that means ineffective and ineficient government? Is it bad to be Pro-Government if you believe effective and efficient governance is damned important for a prosperous and civilized society?

Against School Prayer...For School Prayer...Black or White!
So if you believe in the US Constitution are you against school prayer? If you believe that religious instruction of your children is a personal matter you don't want the public involved with are you against school prayer? Are you really for school prayer if you have to formally sanction it behind a particular belief system? Are you really for school prayer if the kids in school can't pray when they want, to whom they want in any religious belief they want or even none if that's what they believe?

Pro-Union...Against Unions...Black or White!
Are you anti-union if you beleive that all people have the right to collectively share their resources in order to politically achieve social and economic goals? Why is it ok for businessmen and corporations to do this but it's not ok for laborers or private citizens? Isn't that hipocritical as hell? Are you really pro-union if you believe people in a union have the right to coerce others by any means, including violence, to agree to your agenda?

For ID in Schools...Against ID in Schools...Black or White!

Aren't you for ID in Schools if you belief that it should be taught in schools but only in a social studies or comparative religion class since it is not a science?

Conservative Principles...Liberal Principles...Black or White!

Really? Do you really believe in conservative principles if you believe in the principles of politicos like the neo-cons, Rush Limbaugh? Jerry Falwell? The Religious Right? Wouldn't you be a political reactionary and not a true conservative? Are you believing in conservative principles if you believe in the principle of liberal democracy and it's personal freedoms that this nation was founded on? Do you really beleive in liberal principles if you're a socialist? Doesn't that require sacrificing the liberties of the individual for the good of the group? How could this be liberal?

In almost every aspect of society, there is a clear BLACK or WHITE side, and it is represented by either Democrats or Republicans. This country is essentially split down the middle... Black or White, there is not a Grey!

Now, maybe there should be... maybe the world would be a better place if there were, but the fact of the matter is, there isn't, and there isn't likely to be, anytime in our near future. The issues above are too sharply divided, there is no room to compromise either way. Any compromise, is a willing surrender of the issue to the other side. To me, these issues are far to important to surrender or compromise. Could there be compromise? Perhaps, but it requires BOTH sides willing to give up some level of principle, and neither side is interested in that! In my opinion, and I've been blasted for this before, we are coming down to a Cultural Civil War over these things, because neither side is willing to give an inch. Perhaps when the bloodshed claims a few hundred thousands or maybe even a million American lives, the two sides can come to some reasonable compromise? As it stands now, we have two political parties, each representing one of the two Black or White sides of these issues, and we must decide which side stands for the majority of what we believe is right. Because, it's either that, or ammo the fuck up!

Dixie you may see the world as black and white but in reality there are vast shades of grey and a sea of other colors and the only reason you don't see them and only see black and white is not because they are not there but because you refuse to see the light.
 
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Really, Is being Pro Life against abortion under any circumstance really pro life when it gaurentees some women will die that do not want to and could choose otherwise? Do fetuses have choices? Do they have a say in the matter? Is it really a choice to have an abortion if you know having the baby will kill or horribly maim you?


Am I pro gay marriage if I'm for civil unions which gives them the exact same rights but doesn't use the term marriage? Is that a principled stance for my religious belief or is it moral cowardice? Aren't the arguments against gay marriage the same as those that were used against interacial marriage? If you're opposed to gay marriage does that make you, by proxy, opposed to interacial marriage since it is the same logic? Either way wouldn't you be a bigot?



Are you for gun control if you don't think private individuals shouldn't be able to buy an M-1 tank or a 50 mm howitzer or claymores? Are you really pro gun if you allow mentally ill or emotionally disturbed or mentally retarded people access to guns and military style weapons?


There's something fundamentally wrong with this statement. What's wrong with being pro-government? What's right with less government? Is it good to believe in less government if it means less services such as building roads and bridges and hospitals and schools? Is it good to believe in less government if it means a small handfull of plutocrats rule our lives with out appropriate levels of checks and balances? Is it good to believe in less government if that means ineffective and ineficient government? Is it bad to be Pro-Government if you believe effective and efficient governance is damned important for a prosperous and civilized society?


So if you believe in the US Constitution are you against school prayer? If you believe that religious instruction of your children is a personal matter you don't want the public involved with are you against school prayer? Are you really for school prayer if you have to formally sanction it behind a particular belief system? Are you really for school prayer if the kids in school can't pray when they want, to whom they want in any religious belief they want or even none if that's what they believe?


Are you anti-union if you beleive that all people have the right to collectively share their resources in order to politically achieve social and economic goals? Why is it ok for businessmen and corporations to do this but it's not ok for laborers or private citizens? Isn't that hipocritical as hell? Are you really pro-union if you believe people in a union have the right to coerce others by any means, including violence, to agree to your agenda?



Aren't you for ID in Schools if you belief that it should be taught in schools but only in a social studies or comparative religion class since it is not a science?



Really? Do you really believe in conservative principles if you believe in the principles of politicos like the neo-cons, Rush Limbaugh? Jerry Falwell? The Religious Right? Wouldn't you be a political reactionary and not a true conservative? Are you believing in conservative principles if you believe in the principle of liberal democracy and it's personal freedoms that this nation was founded on? Do you really beleive in liberal principles if you're a socialist? Doesn't that require sacrificing the liberties of the individual for the good of the group? How could this be liberal?



Dixie you may see the world as black and white but in reality there are vast shades of grey and a sea of other colors and the only reason you don't see them and only see black and white is not because they are not there but because you refuse to see the light.

Well said, Mott!!! :clink:
 
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