Herd immunity just won’t go away

Darth Omar

Russian asset
The actual number of coronavirus infections in the U.S. reached nearly 53 million at the end of September and could be approaching 100 million now, according to a model developed by government researchers.

The model, created by scientists at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, calculated that the true number of infections is about eight times the reported number, which includes only the cases confirmed by a laboratory test.

https://www.npr.org/sections/corona...vid-19-cases-could-be-approaching-100-million
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So, roughly a third of the population may be immune to COVID. No wonder Fauci wants to bump the Herd Immunity number up.

I’d rate that claim as ‘likely’. You don’t need a computer model for this: If the number of infections is based only on confirmed tests that number is certainly too low because of the high rate of asymptomatic cases. The only question is by how much?

The only way to know if you’re asymptomatic but positive for COVID is to be tested when you don’t have symptoms. How many people do that?

And even that gets into the sketchy PCR tests that yield sketchy data but that’s another issue.

In a more perfect world, this would be crying out for further research because the policy implications would be huge. Where is the outcry for mass seroprevalence testing? Can we lay off the sketchy PCR tests and get everyone rushing out the door to see if they are immune to COVID?

If they are already immune they don’t need a vaccine and it’s debatable if they even need to mask or social distance. Coupled with the vaccines we could be wide open by Spring.

But for some reason I get the idea they will find some reason to drag this dystopia out. With Trump out of the picture it’s a near certainty.
 
The actual number of coronavirus infections in the U.S. reached nearly 53 million at the end of September and could be approaching 100 million now, according to a model developed by government researchers.

The model, created by scientists at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, calculated that the true number of infections is about eight times the reported number, which includes only the cases confirmed by a laboratory test.

https://www.npr.org/sections/corona...vid-19-cases-could-be-approaching-100-million
__________

So, roughly a third of the population may be immune to COVID. No wonder Fauci wants to bump the Herd Immunity number up.

I’d rate that claim as ‘likely’. You don’t need a computer model for this: If the number of infections is based only on confirmed tests that number is certainly too low because of the high rate of asymptomatic cases. The only question is by how much?

The only way to know if you’re asymptomatic but positive for COVID is to be tested when you don’t have symptoms. How many people do that?

And even that gets into the sketchy PCR tests that yield sketchy data but that’s another issue.

In a more perfect world, this would be crying out for further research because the policy implications would be huge. Where is the outcry for mass seroprevalence testing? Can we lay off the sketchy PCR tests and get everyone rushing out the door to see if they are immune to COVID?

If they are already immune they don’t need a vaccine and it’s debatable if they even need to mask or social distance. Coupled with the vaccines we could be wide open by Spring.

But for some reason I get the idea they will find some reason to drag this dystopia out. With Trump out of the picture it’s a near certainty.

instead of you imagining what is going on, how about taking your head out of Trump's ass and watching a real news channel or read a real newspaper? If the number of new cases keeps increasing, and the number of hospitalizations keep increasing, and the death rate keeps increasing, pretty much exponentially, THEN YOU DO NOT HAVE A FUCKING HERD IMMUNITY.

to believe the best way to achieve herd immunity is by just letting this virus kick our ass, overwhelm our hospitals, kill the shit out of 3000 or so a day, instead of wearing masks, keeping a safe distance, and having a vaccine safely immunize enough people while not killing hundreds of thousands more, is what a trump voter might think, if think is the right word for what they do.
 
instead of you imagining what is going on, how about taking your head out of Trump's ass and watching a real news channel or read a real newspaper? If the number of new cases keeps increasing, and the number of hospitalizations keep increasing, and the death rate keeps increasing, pretty much exponentially, THEN YOU DO NOT HAVE A FUCKING HERD IMMUNITY.

to believe the best way to achieve herd immunity is by just letting this virus kick our ass, overwhelm our hospitals, kill the shit out of 3000 or so a day, instead of wearing masks, keeping a safe distance, and having a vaccine safely immunize enough people while not killing hundreds of thousands more, is what a trump voter might think, if think is the right word for what they do.

Dude this post is way to angry. Tone it down white daddy
 
instead of you imagining what is going on, how about taking your head out of Trump's ass and watching a real news channel or read a real newspaper? If the number of new cases keeps increasing, and the number of hospitalizations keep increasing, and the death rate keeps increasing, pretty much exponentially, THEN YOU DO NOT HAVE A FUCKING HERD IMMUNITY.

to believe the best way to achieve herd immunity is by just letting this virus kick our ass, overwhelm our hospitals, kill the shit out of 3000 or so a day, instead of wearing masks, keeping a safe distance, and having a vaccine safely immunize enough people while not killing hundreds of thousands more, is what a trump voter might think, if think is the right word for what they do.

In case you haven’t noticed the virus is kicking our ass in spite of the Magic Masks and other more crippling mitigation policies.

And learn to read for crying out loud. I never said we were AT herd immunity. The point is we may well be a lot closer than we think—or being told.
 
way to angry? finish grade school, much? it does anger me that the ignorance of so many trump voters is so dangerous to the rest of us, and makes it so much harder to defeat this virus and get back to normal.

That’s it, scapegoat Trump supporters for the virus.

Why don’t you go F* yourself.
 
That’s it, scapegoat Trump supporters for the virus.

Why don’t you go F* yourself.

you are the ones spreading it around, bitch. look at how many repubs in trump's circle have come down with it, young and old, stupid shit...good god. open your fucking eyes and close your stupid mouth.
 
The actual number of coronavirus infections in the U.S. reached nearly 53 million at the end of September and could be approaching 100 million now, according to a model developed by government researchers.

The model, created by scientists at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, calculated that the true number of infections is about eight times the reported number, which includes only the cases confirmed by a laboratory test.

https://www.npr.org/sections/corona...vid-19-cases-could-be-approaching-100-million
__________

So, roughly a third of the population may be immune to COVID. No wonder Fauci wants to bump the Herd Immunity number up.

I’d rate that claim as ‘likely’. You don’t need a computer model for this: If the number of infections is based only on confirmed tests that number is certainly too low because of the high rate of asymptomatic cases. The only question is by how much?

The only way to know if you’re asymptomatic but positive for COVID is to be tested when you don’t have symptoms. How many people do that?

And even that gets into the sketchy PCR tests that yield sketchy data but that’s another issue.

In a more perfect world, this would be crying out for further research because the policy implications would be huge. Where is the outcry for mass seroprevalence testing? Can we lay off the sketchy PCR tests and get everyone rushing out the door to see if they are immune to COVID?

If they are already immune they don’t need a vaccine and it’s debatable if they even need to mask or social distance. Coupled with the vaccines we could be wide open by Spring.

But for some reason I get the idea they will find some reason to drag this dystopia out. With Trump out of the picture it’s a near certainty.
Memory T cells are antigen-specific T cells that remain long-term after an infection has been eliminated. The memory T cells are quickly converted into large numbers of effector T cells upon reexposure to the specific invading antigen, thus providing a rapid response to past infection.
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=memor+Tcell

I think we are well on the way to HI.
I keep hearing the "antibodies fade" - but once infected thre is still a rapid repsonse
 
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