Girlfriend of Nashville bomber told police in 2019 he was building explosives ...

It appears authorities with duties had advanced warning about this guy as a bomb maker with an RV.
Then he makes a huge bomb and blows up a city block. The case against the cops or whoever is simple and strong.
Attenuated with time yes, but still. Some major splainin to do. What did you know, when, what did you do, what should you have done,
what are the policies and procedures in these events. What is protocol for follow up. Was it followed. Any rules need changing
because of this? I don't want to judge until all the facts are in. I'm simply saying the facts can be stated in two sentences above
and are strong and damning. Maybe that can be explained away.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Are you saying Republican politics chooses the priorities for the FBI? Since Trump has been over the FBI Director for the past four years, maybe you are correct.
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I doubt that the Director of the FBI was alerted to the NMPD inquiry regarding Warner. The FBI performed a routine record check, nothing more.

To pretend that the FBI should have known what Warner was planning is unrealistic.
 
Mcslobber said:
It appears authorities with duties had advanced warning about this guy as a bomb maker with an RV. Then he makes a huge bomb and blows up a city block. The case against the cops or whoever is simple and strong.
Attenuated with time yes, but still. Some major splainin to do. What did you know, when, what did you do, what should you have done, what are the policies and procedures in these events. What is protocol for follow up. Was it followed. Any rules need changing because of this? I don't want to judge until all the facts are in. I'm simply saying the facts can be stated in two sentences above and are strong and damning. Maybe that can be explained away.
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Maybe you should research the facts before attempting to affix blame.

You could start by reading the entire thread and checking the cited source material.

Or is that too much to expect?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Are you saying Republican politics chooses the priorities for the FBI? Since Trump has been over the FBI Director for the past four years, maybe you are correct.
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Donald jr said trump's first target after reelection was going to be the FBI. Trump would have done further damage to the separation of branches. He was going to be the king.
 
Nordberg said:
Donald jr said trump's first target after reelection was going to be the FBI. Trump would have done further damage to the separation of branches. He was going to be the king.
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Trump was certainly deluded enough to try but our Founders were wise in how they set up the Federal government.

The Constitution and our system of government saved us from Trump. That's why it disturbs me when people try to undermine the Constitution.
 
Nerdberg said:
Donald jr said trump's first target after reelection was going to be the FBI. Trump would have done further damage to the separation of branches. He was going to be the king.
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The FBI is an agency of the DoJ, which is part of the Executive Branch.

At any rate, what Trump might have done is a moot point.
 
Legion said:
I doubt that the Director of the FBI was alerted to the NMPD inquiry regarding Warner. The FBI performed a routine record check, nothing more.

To pretend that the FBI should have known what Warner was planning is unrealistic.
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No worries. People who understand how the US government works and the chain-of-command system in a bureaucracy understand what I was posting about.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
No worries. People who understand how the US government works and the chain-of-command system in a bureaucracy understand what I was posting about.
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Do they?

Last time I checked the Attorney General was the boss of the Director of the FBI, and the boss of the Attorney General is....
 
Legion said:
Do they?

Last time I checked the Attorney General was the boss of the Director of the FBI, and the boss of the Attorney General is....
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Currently Trump but there is a change of management scheduled on the 20th.

Here's a basic question: Who heads each "Alphabet" agency? How is each head selected and, if appointed, who appoints them?
 
Bourbon said:
[h=1]Girlfriend of Nashville bomber told police in 2019 he was building explosives in an RV, records show[/h]On August 21, 2019, police received a call from an attorney representing Pamela Perry, the woman who said she was the girlfriend of the bomber Anthony Warner, the Metropolitan Nashville Police Department said in a statement Tuesday. Her attorney, Raymond Throckmorton, said she had made "suicidal threats to him via telephone."

When police arrived, they found two unloaded pistols near Perry, who said they belonged to Warner. She told officers she did not want them in the home any longer and that Warner was "building bombs in the RV trailer at his residence," according to a "matter of record" report from the MNPD.
The police also spoke to Throckmorton, who once represented Warner and was also present at Perry's home. He told authorities Warner "frequently talks about the military and bomb-making. (Throckmorton) stated that he believes that the suspect knows what he is doing and is capable of making a bomb," the report said.

CNN has reached out to Throckmorton for comment about his account -- first reported by the Tennessean -- but has not yet heard back.

In the course of their several attempts to enter the home, Warner would not open the door for police, a statement from the department said, and as there was no evidence of a crime, they had no authority to enter.

MNPD asked the FBI to check its databases for records of Warner and none were found, the FBI confirmed in a statement to CNN.

On Monday, Tennessee Bureau of Investigation director David Rausch said Warner, 63, had not previously been on law enforcement's radar.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/30/us/nashville-christmas-bombing-wednesday/index.html

Why put a white bomb maker on police radar? It’s so much easier to find black people to kill.
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There's nothing the police could do in a free country to change that. Now, in a police state they could have busted down his front door, searched his home without so much as a warrant and maybe they'd have found the RV bomb and stopped him, but then what happens when they come to your house on flimsy evidence and bust down your door to search your home while dragging you off to a forced interrogation?
 
T. A. Gardner said:
There's nothing the police could do in a free country to change that. Now, in a police state they could have busted down his front door, searched his home without so much as a warrant and maybe they'd have found the RV bomb and stopped him, but then what happens when they come to your house on flimsy evidence and bust down your door to search your home while dragging you off to a forced interrogation?
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Burpin' thinks the cops didn't bust down Warner's door without a warrant because he was white.
 
Legion said:
Wrong answer. The boss of the Attorney General is the president, whoever that happens to be.

I think we both know that already.
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That's what I said but you seem to be operating on a different plane.

Who do you think will be sitting in the White House on the 21st? Would you care to make a bet on the outcome?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
That's what I said but you seem to be operating on a different plane. Who do you think will be sitting in the White House on the 21st? Would you care to make a bet on the outcome?
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Not an argument, and not germane.

The point that I was attempting to make is that a president is not undermining the Constitution, a "chain of command" or the "separation of branches" by exercising control over the FBI.
 
Trumpet said:
That's not odd for Trump.
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LOL. True. The question of "what's odd for Trump" has been answered over the past four years: Nothing is odd for Trump. The crazy bastard will try to do whatever he can get away with.

I've just started Dr. Mary Trump's book. She goes directly to the heart of Trump in the Preamble. I plan on a chapter a night.
 
Legion said:
Not an argument, and not germane.

The point that I was attempting to make is that a president is not undermining the Constitution, a "chain of command" or the "separation of branches" by exercising control over the FBI.
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Oh, wow. You went to the INT/IBDa/gfm school of logic. Please beg my pardon.

Then you accept that Trump is responsible for the actions of the FBI.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Then you accept that Trump is responsible for the actions of the FBI.
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Having the legal right to command is not the same as operationally exercising command, but, yes, ultimately, responsibility rests with the commander.

Does that mean that Trump ordered the FBI not to investigate Warner? No.
 
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