Will Trump be Reelected via Electoral College or via 12th Amendment ?

I wrote out a complete, thoughtful answer to your question ... and you weren't literate enough to read it.

Then I asked you a similar question and you refused to answer it, all while claiming that you have the rocks to answer it.

You have failed. I answered your question, now you answer mine. If/when Trump wins, will it be per the Electoral College or per 12th Amendment?


OK. Trump: 100% You should have been able to discern that from my straightforward English.

My God! It's like pulling teeth trying to have a coherent conversation with you. You spend more time patting yourself on the back for your "complete, thoughtful" answers than responding. But that's usually the case for Radicalized Right Wing Extremists when they're confronted with intimidating questions. You seem to be inebriated by the exuberance of your own verbosity. But at least you answered my question on the 2nd try.

I'll be posting your psychic prediction on January 21st for all the world to see. Don't be too embarrassed. We all understand how the right wing propaganda works to dupe their followers.

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It is not done. The vote is on Jan 6th. So far seven States have filed Contested.

How much money have you sent Trump so far?

Is that an easy enough question for you to comprehend? You think you're smart enough to answer it?

Come on, ItN. Let's see if you have the cognitive ability to answer a simple question. Just a ballpark dollar amount will do. Let's see how devoted you are to your Orange Turd.

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Go easy on ItN. He gets his news from OAN & NewsMax so he's a little confused.

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FAQ: What happens next in the presidential election process?

November 6, 2020 by Scott Bomboy
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The 2020 election contest between President Donald Trump and former Vice President Joe Biden seems headed into overtime, as the presidential vote-counting process continues into Friday. Regardless of which candidate claims victory in the election, the odds are good the election will be contested.

As of Friday morning, the races in Arizona, Georgia, Nevada, and Pennsylvania were still tightly fought - so close, in fact, that their votes could be subject to a recount in the next month. There are also lawsuits in play about a state’s ability to ask for extended mail-in ballot deadlines, and how ballots were counted.

Here is a brief roadmap to the key deadlines in the presidential election process going forward.

Elections contested within the states (until December 8)

Each state has laws that allow a candidate, including a presidential candidate, to ask for an election recount. In some instances, a recount is automatically started based on the margin separating the top two candidates.

A presidential candidate also can allege voting was conducted or counted in an improper way, and then seek a remedy within the state’s legal system, and in some cases at federal court.

The popular legal blog Lawfare has a list of these different scenarios, including how disputes, recounts, and elector vacancies will be handled within the current battleground states. For example, Nevada allows a candidate to contest an election on at least six grounds, including cases where “Illegal or improper votes were counted, legal and proper votes were not counted, or some combination of the two.”

In Wisconsin, the Trump campaign said on Wednesday it may request a recount, which is permitted when a candidate trails the leading candidate by no more than 1 percent of the total votes cast for that office when at least 4,000 votes were cast.” Additional grounds for a recount include claims by a candidate that “a mistake has been made; fraud has been committed; or another specified defect, irregularity or illegality has occurred.”

A federal law (3 U.S. Code § 5) known as the “safe harbor provision” requires a state to settle these disputes and determine its electors six days before the electoral college members meet in person. In 2020, that deadline is December 8, since the college votes on December 14, 2020

Elections contested in court (until December 14)


While in most cases any dispute at a state level must be resolved by December 8, back in 2000 a divided Supreme Court, in a 5-4 vote, ruled on December 12 in Bush v. Gore, after the safe-harbor date for Florida’s election. The court’s ruling settled a controversy over an automatic recount in Florida and it was issued quickly because of the impending December 14 meeting of the electoral college.

In the current election, according to the Washington Post at least 12 significant presidential-election lawsuits were in federal courts as Election Day started, and another suit was filed on Election Day in suburban Philadelphia about the handling of mail-in ballots. Still more are in the works as of Friday.

Perhaps the most prominent was the emergency request in Republican Party of Pa, v. Boockvar declined by an equally-divided Supreme Court on October 19 that could be heading back to the nine justices at some point. The Republicans sought to have a Pennsylvania Supreme Court decision overturned that allowed for the counting mailed-in ballots received for three days after Election Day in Pennsylvania.

A separate analysis from USA Today found that 230 election-related lawsuits had been filed this year in federal courts through October 2020.

The electoral college meets (December 14)

Of course, the votes for president are actually votes for a slate of electors who cast ballots in the electoral college, a gathering held in the 50 states and the District of Columbia on an appointed day in December after the election.

During the electoral college meetings on December 14, 2020 another possible controversy could involve a faithless elector who decides to cast his or her vote for a different presidential candidate. Some states can disregard a vote cast by a faithless elector. The Supreme Court’s unanimous July 2020 decision in Chiafolo v. Washington affirmed that state laws penalizing or replacing faithless electors are constitutional.

However, not all states have such laws on the books. The website FairVote.org tracks the faithless elector laws across America. It says 33 states and the District of Columbia require electoral college members to cast ballots for a pledged candidate. Among the closely contested states in 2020, FairVote says Pennsylvania and Wisconsin are among the states without faithless elector laws.

The electors’ votes head to Congress (December 23, 2020)

Federal law requires states to deliver certified electoral college results to the vice president, serving as president of the Senate, and other parties by the fourth Wednesday in December; in the year 2020 that date falls on December 23.

What happens if a state misses that deadline and it can’t agree on a way to handle a faithless elector? Or there is a dispute over the election winner between the state lawmakers and a governor, for example?

The federal statute 3 U.S.C. §12, 13 requires the vice president or the Archivist of the United States to compel “secretary of state or equivalent officer” of that state to send the certified election results to Congress, using direct mail or a messenger sent to a federal judge in the state in question, if the judge has the certified election results.

Congress counts the electoral votes (January 6, 2021)

Also under federal law, a joint session of Congress is required by the 12th Amendment to count the electoral votes and declare the winners of the presidential election. That joint session of Congress is held on January 6, 2021 at 1 p.m.

When the results from each state are announced, a member of the House and Senate can jointly object, in writing, to the election results from that state. The House and Senate then adjourn for up to one hour to consider the objection; if both bodies agree to uphold the objection, the votes are excluded from the election results under the terms of the Electoral Count Act of 1887.

There are several scenarios that could allow for this final vote count to be delayed in Congress. One scenario would be if House and Senate agree to exclude a state’s electoral votes, which would then result in a candidate not having the majority of electoral votes. Another would be a faithless elector causing a tie in the electoral college voting.

The 12th Amendment then calls for run-off or contingent elections in the House (to select a president) and the Senate (to select a vice president). Those elections would need to be finished by 12 p.m. on January 20, 2021 for the next president and vice president to take their oaths of office. If that does not happen, the Speaker of the House would serve as president until Congress certifies a winner of the 2020 presidential election.

Scott Bomboy is the editor in chief of the National Constitution Center.

More Resources from the National Constitution

The Interactive Constitution

Common Interpretation: The Electoral College

The 12th Amendment

Blog Posts

The 23rd Amendment and the chance of a tied 2020 presidential election

The Constitution and contested presidential elections

Podcasts

Election 2020 in the Courts

Town Hall Videos

America’s Contentious Presidential Elections: A History

Educational Videos

Learning About the Electoral College With Tara Ross (High School/College Session)

https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/...ection-process

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"...USA Today found that 230 election-related lawsuits had been filed this year in federal courts through October 2020." ........Dems were very busy this year trying to change the rules.
 
The election hasn't been held yet. The electoral college hasn't even voted. Since there is no required majority yet, the 12th amendment alternative method of choosing the President it likely.

That is the answer. The electoral college hasn't voted yet. The vote may not decide the President even on Jan 6th.

That's the rocks. Now go bang yours together.

Try answering the question as it was stated, Gomer. The question wasn't "When is the Electoral College voted on?" It was:

What do you seriously think Trump's chances are of flipping the election and serving a 2nd term?
 
For a while it was looking like certain contested States were simply going to punt and just abstain from sending electors, thus denying either candidate the 270 electoral votes needed to win and sending the vote to the House whereby Trump would win by a lopsided 31-20 margin.

But lately, it's beginning to look like some of those contested States are going to do the right thing and flip back to Trump thus giving him the 270 electoral votes to win outright.

If I had to bet, ... I'm still not sure which path will take Trump to his second term.

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Kinda like asking:

Are you a Radicalized Right Wing Troll or just a gullible, naive Trump dick-sucker?

I'm guessing the latter.

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Try answering the question as it was stated, Gomer. The question wasn't "When is the Electoral College voted on?" It was:

What do you seriously think Trump's chances are of flipping the election and serving a 2nd term?

Pretty funny how the OP disappeared after his repeated mistakes, and Into The Night stepped in. Just sayin'
 
I don't think he's *that* unhinged, but we'll see.

I think he is. OTOH, I also believe the combination of Ivanka, Melania, Junior and other family members can convince him not to do it. If they didn't know the consequences, I'm certain others have informed them of how it would end for all of them.

The United States is a nation of 329M Americans and a GDP of over $22T which is almost 24% of the Global Economy. There's a lot of money on the table with a lot of people and businesses unwilling to let a septugenarian nutjob fuck it up.

https://www.investopedia.com/insights/worlds-top-economies/
 
All elections go through this process. Have you pitched fits in prior elections when Dems and Reps engaged in "objections" on January 6th? I doubt you even paid attention to the
entire process before now.

Yes, objections have been pursued before...many times.

But if you are too fucking stupid to see the difference between what happened then and what is happening now...I doubt anyone could explain it to you.

Oh, and by the way...I think people who are still supporting Trump and the shit he is puling right now should be tried for treason.

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If the 12th amendment method is used, we might not know until Jan 20th or even after. The 20th amendment allows for this.
Correct. We will know on Jan 6 whether Trump has won via Electoral College or whether he will win via 12th Amendment, but the Constitution establishes no timeline for the 12th Amendment so it could certainly extend beyond 20 January.
 
Either one works. So many on the left in here never understood the whole process and what the timeline meant. They're stuck on the original
EC count. Dec.14th was simply the jumping off date. They don't remember how this all played out in prior elections where there were objections
coming into play as well from Dems. It's all part of the entire process. Always has been.

Spot on.
 
Have you given any thought to how you are going to explain your totally WACKY belief that the earth can somehow spontaneously increase in temperature without any additional energy? I think that if you are going to comment in a thread that everyone should be forewarned that you are a total idiot who thinks he's a genius, that you are scientifically illiterate and mathematically incompetent yet somehow believe that you are qualified to bully others into believing your WILD physics violations.

Have you given any thought to how you are going to explain your theory that the Stefan-Boltzmann law, which applies to all matter, always, everywhere, ... nonetheless somehow doesn't apply to earth? I think that if you are going to comment in a thread that everyone should be forewarned that the only positions you hold are those that you have been ordered to hold by your political slavemasters and that you should never be asked to support your ZANY views because you cannot.

Of course it's only fitting that you also support Biden.

Have a great day.

So, you can't answer the simple question?

Well, can you explain your WACKY positions or are you simply the delusional loon that you appear to be?
 
My God! It's like pulling teeth trying to have a coherent conversation with you.
That's why you should have stayed in school, i.e. so it wouldn't be taxing for you to try to sit at the adult's table.

Whenever you are at a site for adults, such as this one, you should let people know that you never finished highschool so that they can dumb down their posts for your consumption. I don't think anyone intentionally wants you to be confused, but you have to at least announce your "student driver" advisory so that everyone else can limit their discussion to something you are more likely to grasp.

Just a suggestion.
 
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