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Chapdog said:
ehhhh wrong

before this last year my effective rates were around 12-15%.. i went over some agi benchmarks and it wasn't just my income over x $$ it was the loss of tons of tax breaks due to being over a limit. so technically my taxes didn't go up per say on that money under x$$$ but it did go up in regards to all the lost deductions.. For example I paid almost 10k in child care.. none could be written off this year. LAst year i was able to write off 5k.. that is a significant tax increase.
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YOu mean for 2008, or you already filed your 2009 taxes?
 
Darla said:
YOu mean for 2008, or you already filed your 2009 taxes?
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hmm.. yes and no
i was talking about 07 versus 08 in my scnerio
but i underpaid by like 6k in 08 (partially due to losing a shit load of deductions) so i did have to do estimate for 09 and may have to file quarterly this year. Trying to get out of that.
 
Onceler said:
This is what they do; it was the same when "Joe the Plumber" first broke on the scene. He, and so many others, only wish they fell into that bracket.

And guess what? If you do make over $250K, your taxes go up a few % for any amount OVER that. It's so completely disingenuous to say that the gov't is confiscating everything above that, so what's the use?

You have to really check your brain at the door to make the kinds of arguments I'm hearing from the right this year. I hope Congress can follow through w/ Obama's proposed investment in education, because we really need it.
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I asked this yesterday Onceler and apologize if I missed your response. What is Obama's "investment" in education? Is it any different than every other President who 'invested' in education by offering more federal money? Or is the fact that he is offering more federal money than has been offered before what you like about it? (again, I don't know that that is fact)
 
I never knew if you made over 250,000 a year, you were considered RICH..and isn't it great that the President and the Democrats can just pluck a number out of the air on who they will TAX..

this is becoming a royal joke..
 
meme said:
I never knew if you made over 250,000 a year, you were considered RICH..and isn't it great that the President and the Democrats can just pluck a number out of the air on who they will TAX..

this is becoming a royal joke..
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its actually far better then what it was in the 90's 100k +

in 2004 kerry boldly threw out 250k and they have stuck with it.

a 4.5% tax increase on anything over 250k is really not a big deal.
 
Chapdog said:
hmm.. yes and no
i was talking about 07 versus 08 in my scnerio
but i underpaid by like 6k in 08 (partially due to losing a shit load of deductions) so i did have to do estimate for 09 and may have to file quarterly this year. Trying to get out of that.
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So, cutting to the chase, you are talking about tax code already in existence prior to Obama taking office, not being benefincial enough to you, in order to claim that Obama's tax policy is going to...do something that you haven't been all that clear on. Other than it's going to annoy some in your tax bracket and above.

So anyway, back here, these tax increases will still be less than the higher tax brackets were paying under Clinton, when we were also told that the world would end and the economy would be crushed, and all the repugs were moving to Russia.

And yet...

So you know, I feel okay about this. As someone who really hopes to be making 250 by the time Obama is out of office, and who really works towards that, I can tell you that if I succeed at that, and my business grows to the point where I am personally earning, say 300k, I promise to work just as hard even though I will have to pay FOUR FUCKING BUCKS EXTRA, for each hundred dollars I keep above 250k

You have my word.
 
cawacko said:
I asked this yesterday Onceler and apologize if I missed your response. What is Obama's "investment" in education? Is it any different than every other President who 'invested' in education by offering more federal money? Or is the fact that he is offering more federal money than has been offered before what you like about it? (again, I don't know that that is fact)
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His response was, shut the f up you are getting on his nerves.

I can't even believe you missed it.
 
Chapdog said:
its actually far better then what it was in the 90's 100k +

in 2004 kerry boldly threw out 250k and they have stuck with it.

a 4.5% tax increase on anything over 250k is really not a big deal.
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So we actually agree. And you are arguing with me why? What are you bucking to become the new Superfreak?
 
Chapdog said:
its actually far better then what it was in the 90's 100k +

in 2004 kerry boldly threw out 250k and they have stuck with it.

a 4.5% tax increase on anything over 250k is really not a big deal.
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any tax increase is bad for businesses.this will hit the small business owners the hardest..what don't you get about that?
 
meme said:
any tax increase is bad for businesses.this will hit the small business owners the hardest..what don't you get about that?
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small business owners dont usually net over 250k agi unless they are putting very little back into the business.

And if they are taking over 250k out of the business per year they can afford the 4.5% additional.. if anything what they will do is re-invest anything over 249,000 back into the business to avoid paying which is in fact good for the economy.

when we were talking about 100k when the democrats were totally obtuse your points made total sense cause no point in owning small business if you getting taxed to hell on the living wage u pulling out of it for your effort.
 
meme said:
any tax increase is bad for businesses.this will hit the small business owners the hardest..what don't you get about that?
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It's just not true. That's all. There's nothing to get or not get. There is just what is and what isn't. It isn't.
 
Darla said:
So we actually agree. And you are arguing with me why? What are you bucking to become the new Superfreak?
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i wasnt really arguing. I was talking about an economic theory, then bitching about my personal situation, then arguing that 5% tax increase over 250k isnt going to ruin small businesses.
 
Darla said:
His response was, shut the f up you are getting on his nerves.

I can't even believe you missed it.
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I'm not sure about that. I think we need Jarod and Damo to interpret this for us. His actual response was "Darla is a raging b*tch". However in context I can see what he meant was shut the f up Cawacko you are getting on my nerves.

Jarod? Damo? Thoughts?
 
I'm never going to be a rich conservative, having decided to go the teacher and national guardsman route in life...

Rich mofos - if I were a liberal I'd tax the fuck outta you lot!!! :cof1:
 
cawacko said:
I'm not sure about that. I think we need Jarod and Damo to interpret this for us. His actual response was "Darla is a raging b*tch". However in context I can see what he meant was shut the f up Cawacko you are getting on my nerves.

Jarod? Damo? Thoughts?
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LOL Jesus it's as bad as the Scottboxter/Sarge threads. though I have to say, nowhere near as funny.
 
Threedee said:
I'm never going to be a rich conservative, having decided to go the teacher and national guardsman route in life...

Rich mofos - if I were a liberal I'd tax the fuck outta you lot!!! :cof1:
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WTF are you joining the national guard for? They're going to mail your dumbass right over to some sandpit first chance they get. Stay home and start applying for grants. With a liberal in office, you're going to see that kind of money free up more.
 
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