Pennsylvania accepted mail in ballots for 69 hours later than what is allowed by law

No, and as an aside "(my) boy" isn't such so you are off base there. I object because mail-in balloting has numerous issues related to a variety of things all of which are highly problematic.

We could start with elections are supposed to be held on the first Tuesday of November, not over several weeks or even months using mail-in ballots. Early voting not only violates federal and many state laws doing this, but it ruins the intent of a particular date on which voting occurs.

Next, going off that is the potential for fraud from ballot harvesting, improperly mailed to or from ballots, inability to fix a mis-marked ballot, etc. All of this makes mail-in voting highly suspect.

As it stands, there is virtually no control on who marks a ballot and little or no control on ensuring that the person voting is eligible or actually the person claimed. The signature on the envelope is nearly worthless as a control as the ways it is matched are all but a joke.

Since there is no chain of custody whatsoever on mail-in ballots that too becomes not just problematic, but highly suspect. In most, if not all, states ballots are separated from the envelope once arriving to be counted. Once that happens all chain of custody ends.

I'd add to all that that electronic voting is equally bad. There is too much solid evidence that these machines can easily be tampered with to ignore. When a computer expert can show how someone with even limited instruction can easily reprogram such a machine, even while in use in an election, and do so in a way that the hack programming will spread to other machines while being undetectable, there is a major problem.

We need elections everyone can have full faith in. That means:

In-person voting on paper ballots with a chain of custody trail involved.
Universal requirements for voter ID and strict requirements for voter registration.
The use of mail-in balloting being limited to the greatest extent possible.
No "early voting" or other extended voting nonsense. The election is held on one or several days at one time and that's when you vote, PERIOD!
Counting can be done electronically but by machines designed specifically to be difficult or impossible to alter in function. A full paper trail is maintained just in case.

Yep, just as I thought. Because your boy got his ass kicked.

This was a secure election, pal, and no federal laws were broken. Nobody is challenging the legality of early voting, voting by mail, absentee ballots or anything of the sort. Your lame argument rings hollow.

Fraud has not been shown, Jethro. Another bogus argument.

Electronic tampering is also a bogus claim.

When elections are close enough, as in GA, a candidate can request a hand count. Guess how many elections have ever been overturned by recounts? ZERO or next to ZERO.

Keep struggling, Jethro. It’s amusing.
 
Yep, just as I thought. Because your boy got his ass kicked.

This was a secure election, pal, and no federal laws were broken. Nobody is challenging the legality of early voting, voting by mail, absentee ballots or anything of the sort. Your lame argument rings hollow.

Fraud has not been shown, Jethro. Another bogus argument.

Electronic tampering is also a bogus claim.

When elections are close enough, as in GA, a candidate can request a hand count. Guess how many elections have ever been overturned by recounts? ZERO or next to ZERO.

Keep struggling, Jethro. It’s amusing.

Just because you say so, and mostly do it using ad hominem, doesn't make it true. My comments had nothing to do with Trump. As I posted in other threads, I have opposed general mail-in balloting, ballot harvesting, and many other aspects of our current election system well before this election. It just reconfirmed my belief that the results are not to be fully trusted--and, I don't give a shit what official, vested interests in the election system claim. Their positions don't make them automatically reliable or believable.
 
Serious question: to rig a national election...how many people (roughly) would need to be involved?
One of the witnesses a very creditable former naval Commander and a computer specialist in computer fraud currently testified he saw voting computer warehouse guy inserting USB drives into about 30 voting machines. He wasn't authorized to be down loading or up loading to the machines. If he was uploading mal ware it could have stolen 10's of thousands of votes or more. Also he and a democrat poll observer both after 5 hours finally got access to a room where they had 60-70 thousand mail in votes. The thing is all of the mail in votes had been counted and accounted for already. The computer fraud specialist identified several areas where fraud could enter the system He said a small group of people could have changed the race in Pennsylvania for Biden.
 
One of the witnesses a very creditable former naval Commander and a computer specialist in computer fraud currently testified he saw voting computer warehouse guy inserting USB drives into about 30 voting machines. He wasn't authorized to be down loading or up loading to the machines. If he was uploading mal ware it could have stolen 10's of thousands of votes or more. Also he and a democrat poll observer both after 5 hours finally got access to a room where they had 60-70 thousand mail in votes. The thing is all of the mail in votes had been counted and accounted for already. The computer fraud specialist identified several areas where fraud could enter the system He said a small group of people could have changed the race in Pennsylvania for Biden.

If if if if if. If wishes were fishes......

Pointing out something that could happen is not evidence that it DID happen. When are you going to figure that out. Is there any evidence of fraud? Nope. None.
 
Absolutely. They could vote TWICE (3,4,5,6 times, whatever) because they did not do any matching of names, id's, addresses with state voter rolls.
I thought it was interesting that the state senator in Pa said he tried to get a bill that included a law that would require an identifying bar code be place on each mail in ballot envelope so it could be identified when and to whom it was sent and when it was received back. The Governor of Pa said he would veto the whole bill if that law was included in the bill. So it had to be removed. Ask yourself why they would not want this security feature.
 
One of the witnesses a very creditable former naval Commander and a computer specialist in computer fraud currently testified he saw voting computer warehouse guy inserting USB drives into about 30 voting machines. He wasn't authorized to be down loading or up loading to the machines. If he was uploading mal ware it could have stolen 10's of thousands of votes or more. Also he and a democrat poll observer both after 5 hours finally got access to a room where they had 60-70 thousand mail in votes. The thing is all of the mail in votes had been counted and accounted for already. The computer fraud specialist identified several areas where fraud could enter the system He said a small group of people could have changed the race in Pennsylvania for Biden.

That didn't really answer the question.
 
If if if if if. If wishes were fishes......

Pointing out something that could happen is not evidence that it DID happen. When are you going to figure that out. Is there any evidence of fraud? Nope. None.
They also have data spikes in the voting that is in excess of the optical scanners ability to physically scan. Of the spikes they had over 600K Biden votes and 3200 Trump votes. They also have COUNTRY RECORDS that show 1.8 million mail in ballots sent out and 2.5 million mail in votes returned. They also had over 620K votes counted at a time they did not allow Republican observers to observe. Is there any wonder why the Republicans are concerned about the election integrity.
 
They also have data spikes in the voting that is in excess of the optical scanners ability to physically scan. Of the spikes they had over 600K Biden votes and 3200 Trump votes. They also have COUNTRY RECORDS that show 1.8 million mail in ballots sent out and 2.5 million mail in votes returned. They also had over 620K votes counted at a time they did not allow Republican observers to observe. Is there any wonder why the Republicans are concerned about the election integrity.

Not one thing you said is true. There were over 3 million ballots sent out in Pennsylvania, the vast majority to Democrats. Democrats returned over 1.1 million MORE ballots than Republicans. What you said is utter horseshit.

https://apnews.com/article/election...al-elections-b1fe12514c3a736ec33f84e4ce7e4161

https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/PA.html
 
One of the witnesses a very creditable former naval Commander and a computer specialist in computer fraud currently testified he saw voting computer warehouse guy inserting USB drives into about 30 voting machines. He wasn't authorized to be down loading or up loading to the machines. If he was uploading mal ware it could have stolen 10's of thousands of votes or more. Also he and a democrat poll observer both after 5 hours finally got access to a room where they had 60-70 thousand mail in votes. The thing is all of the mail in votes had been counted and accounted for already. The computer fraud specialist identified several areas where fraud could enter the system He said a small group of people could have changed the race in Pennsylvania for Biden.

COULD, COULD, COULD, COULD.

Next?
 
They also have data spikes in the voting that is in excess of the optical scanners ability to physically scan. Of the spikes they had over 600K Biden votes and 3200 Trump votes. They also have COUNTRY RECORDS that show 1.8 million mail in ballots sent out and 2.5 million mail in votes returned. They also had over 620K votes counted at a time they did not allow Republican observers to observe. Is there any wonder why the Republicans are concerned about the election integrity.

Another lie that you bought hook, line and sinker from some RW conspiracy site.
 
Why is the "1.8 million mailed out" thing even an argument? Many who used mail-in picked up their ballots.
More people used Mail in ballots than received them to use according to Philadelphia's own records. They know how many were sent/given to registered voters and which voter received them. There is a 700k discrepancy about the same number as Trump's lead before the counting machine were shut down about 3am.
 
More people used Mail in ballots than received them to use according to Philadelphia's own records. They know how many were sent/given to registered voters and which voter received them. There is a 700k discrepancy about the same number as Trump's lead before the counting machine were shut down about 3am.

That actually isn't true.

Like I said: many people just picked them up, at post offices & town halls.
 
I thought it was interesting that the state senator in Pa said he tried to get a bill that included a law that would require an identifying bar code be place on each mail in ballot envelope so it could be identified when and to whom it was sent and when it was received back. The Governor of Pa said he would veto the whole bill if that law was included in the bill. So it had to be removed. Ask yourself why they would not want this security feature.

Sadly true. And, they discarded the envelopes anyway. What a scam. They have no one to blame but themselves for this mess.
 
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