Anyone notice, Obama and Dems big gov spending has not done shit to help the market?

KingCondanomation

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I'm just amazed I mean, I would have thought investors would jump for joy at the prospect of paying more in income tax and more in capital gains taxes?
They should be ploughing their money back into US companies, yet for some reason it isn't happening?

Oh well at least we got giant new social welfare spending like universal healthcare, free college education, etc.... and other things that used to be paid for privately.
Yay for shrinking the economy under the guise of rescuing it.
 
you must be retarded.
Bush LET the wall street crowd rape the american public to the tune of 2 trillion.
That's his tab, Obama's job is to get the fucking ship full of hole back is sailing shape.
WOW what a dumbass.
 
Topspin said:
you must be retarded.
Bush LET the wall street crowd rape the american public to the tune of 2 trillion.
That's his tab, Obama's job is to get the fucking ship full of hole back is sailing shape.
WOW what a dumbass.
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??? Rape?
By overextending loans to people who could not pay them back, the private sector was too generous.

So top, let me ask, as an investor, are you looking forward to paying more in capital gains tax SHOULD you succeed with the already higher than norm levels of risk in the market now?
 
Obfuscate said:
Like TARP. Socialism does not breed confidence.
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Well exactly. I'm really starting to wonder if some Dems are really salivating at the panic because they can pass whatever social welfare pipe dream they want in the name of "saving" the economy. Just like how SS passed in the 30's and did nothing to improve the economy.
 
KingCondanomation said:
??? Rape?
By overextending loans to people who could not pay them back, the private sector was too generous.

So top, let me ask, as an investor, are you looking forward to paying more in capital gains tax SHOULD you succeed with the already higher than norm levels of risk in the market now?
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are you retarded, we got ass raped without a reach around from Bush.
Wall street was selling piles of shit with a bow on it, rating agencies got fees to rubber stamp the smelly shit.
Obama will police these fucking crooks.
And you fucking bet I can't wait to pay capital gains tax. I'm down over $250,000 right now. It's going to take Obama 3yrs to get that back for me.:pke:
 
Topspin said:
are you retarded, we got ass raped without a reach around from Bush.
Wall street was selling piles of shit with a bow on it, rating agencies got fees to rubber stamp the smelly shit.
Obama will police these fucking crooks.
And you fucking bet I can't wait to pay capital gains tax. I'm down over $250,000 right now. It's going to take Obama 3yrs to get that back for me.:pke:
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You know Toppy, I can remember a lot of people making crazy fortunes in the late 90's and 80's, I bet you were one of them. Now you lost a lot - that's how the market works.

Obama may well be a great outlet for revenge, but most investors are not interested in paying higher capital gains tax, I'm sure you know that.
 
niether are couples making $250,000 and over. Now that's the anti for the game.
I'm not selling here though I'm starting to buy some bonds.
Remember country club boy, a rising tide lifts all boats.
 
You know what this post means?

It means that by the end of the summer, when the market is rebounding & growing again, I can start a new thread entitled "See! The stimulus worked!", and Dano won't be able to say a thing about it.
 
Topspin said:
niether are couples making $250,000 and over. Now that's the anti for the game.
I'm not selling here though I'm starting to buy some bonds.
Remember country club boy, a rising tide lifts all boats.
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I remember full well that a rising tide does lift all boats. You should remember that when we hear Obama talking about blaming the rich and wealthy.
 
"You should remember that when we hear Obama talking about blaming the rich and wealthy"

Got a quote for that one?
 
thats who benefited
that doesn't make him right
I'll take that as part of him as an imperfect package.
One that will beat Piyush or Jeb like a rented mule in 4 yrs.

The fed and gov spending has never taken 4 yrs to re-start the economy.:cof1:
 
I think it's hilarious that the market "isn't reacting well to Obama" as opposed to say not reacting well to the repeatedly negative economic news that has and continues to come out. Perhaps the market is actually doing better than it otherwise would.

And really, "the market" isn't the be all and end all. Works on underlying structural economic problems and "the market" will respond.
 
Onceler said:
"You should remember that when we hear Obama talking about blaming the rich and wealthy"

Got a quote for that one?
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‘A surplus became an excuse to transfer wealth to the wealthy instead of an opportunity to invest in our future’ - Obama

This is of course bullshit, the rich are the ones who pay most taxes, tax cuts were done for all and they do not transfer wealth, they allow those who pay to keep more of their own wealth.

Also a lot of that extra private capital from tax cuts WAS used to invest in new technologies in the market as venture capital for high-tech, biotech firms, etc...

Obama was clearing laying blame on the wealthy.
 
KingCondanomation said:
‘A surplus became an excuse to transfer wealth to the wealthy instead of an opportunity to invest in our future’ - Obama

This is of course bullshit, the rich are the ones who pay most taxes, tax cuts were done for all and they do not transfer wealth, they allow those who pay to keep more of their own wealth.

Also a lot of that extra private capital from tax cuts WAS used to invest in new technologies in the market as venture capital for high-tech, biotech firms, etc...

Obama was clearing laying blame on the wealthy.
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I have heard Obama blame greed, nothing more. He does not "blame the wealthy." That is just your paranoid mindset that thinks liberals are anti-weath and anti-corporation.
 
Dungheap said:
I think it's hilarious that the market "isn't reacting well to Obama" as opposed to say not reacting well to the repeatedly negative economic news that has and continues to come out. Perhaps the market is actually doing better than it otherwise would.

And really, "the market" isn't the be all and end all. Works on underlying structural economic problems and "the market" will respond.
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I'm not arguing that what Obama does will ONLY effect the market, I'm just arguing that the things he has done (higher capital gains taxes, more debt with social welfare spending) discourage people from investing in a market where their return will be even less.
 
KingCondanomation said:
‘A surplus became an excuse to transfer wealth to the wealthy instead of an opportunity to invest in our future’ - Obama

This is of course bullshit, the rich are the ones who pay most taxes, tax cuts were done for all and they do not transfer wealth, they allow those who pay to keep more of their own wealth.

Also a lot of that extra private capital from tax cuts WAS used to invest in new technologies in the market as venture capital for high-tech, biotech firms, etc...

Obama was clearing laying blame on the wealthy.
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1) That isn't blaming the rich. It's saying that the rich were the beneficiaries of wrong-headed government policy.

2) The tax cuts when they were implemented were just huge deficit spending bills and were, in fact, transfers to the rich and wealthy.
 
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