MAMA

[dukkha]

A man does not lose a job from his opinion....

you need to catch up on "cancel culture"

 

[dukkha]

Well, it's not a communism, for sure. It usually is referred to as an oligarchy in terms of economy. It has a democratic government, but they lack transparency on many things. Still, they certainly are closer to a true representative government than China is.

Russia has multiple parties in the legislature, for example. In China, you technically can be part of a party other than the CCP, but you're not going to have any real power doing so. And if it looks like you are becoming a threat to the CCP's dominance in even the slightest way, bad things will happen to you. The Falun Gong have found this out the hard way.

So yes, compared to China, Russia is far more evolved in terms of freedoms.

CARP is a Russiaphobic retard, but good posts. you have much more patience then I do

 

[Darth Omar]

Maoism is a reflection of Chinese Confucianism -loyalty to society and family are more important then indvidualism
China has a Hive Mind -we are too busy being ourselves ( I gotta be me) to consider the common good
Politician dont do that anymore either - the exception was Trump and his "America First"

Russia isn't all western but certainly has much more in common with the west then China does.

Your posts are a breath of fresh air in this age of Russiaphobia

If Russia isn’t a western country it’s western-ish.

Put it this way: Russia is decided more western than Turkey but only one of them is a member of NATO.

 

[dukkha]

If Russia isn’t a western country it’s western-ish.

Put it this way: Russia is decided more western than Turkey but only one of them is a member of NATO.

Turkey is westernish -Erdogan is blowing past all the reforms of Atatürk;
trying to return to some type of sultanate with his ass the Sultan!

I'd venture that Russia is more "western" then not -yes

 

[Bill]

He cares about Russia, Putin and subjugating the US to Russian influence. He certainly doesn't care about the Constitution and supporting the US against our enemies in Russia, China and elsewhere.

If he's a Russian asset outside the US, he's safe from prosecution. If he's a Russian agent inside the US, he's subject to deportation. If he's an American citizen, he's treasonous and should be dealt with as a traitor.

He isn't an agent & as trump fades his views/support will as well.....

I have found his russian/putin defense & rationalizations troubling but subject to change

 

[Bill]

Carp, has it occurred to you yet that your lefty Russia phobe buddies are going to abandon you the minute Biden takes office lol?

They only cared about Russians to the extent the Russian hoax was used to delegitimize Trump. Once Trump is gone you may be the only JPP poster who cares about Russia.

And you could end up talking to yourself.

Trump is going away, not Russia........

 

[Bill]

you need to catch up on "cancel culture"

Not a concern to me......

Like the fear of the freshman ladies & other fades most of you follow & rub your hands over..........

 

[Bill]

Turkey is westernish -Erdogan is blowing past all the reforms of Atatürk;
trying to return to some type of sultanate with his ass the Sultan!

I'd venture that Russia is more "western" then not -yes

Perhaps western isn't the right term here......

erdogan is a simple tyrant & his pan-turkic hopes & adventures are coming to fruition..

How long he thinks he could last w/out NATO is anyone's guess, but IMHO it wouldn't be long......

 

[anatta]

Not a concern to me......

Like the fear of the freshman ladies & other fades most of you follow & rub your hands over..........

well it's a real thing, people lose their jobs and are shunned in society by the intolerant left.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/07/10/real-problem-with-cancel-culture/
I’ve been hearing from people, center-left as well as center-right, who have moved from astonishment to concern to terror as senior editors were fired for running op-eds written by conservative senators or approving inept headlines; as professors were investigated for offenses such as “reading aloud the words of Martin Luther King”; as a major arts foundation imploded because its statement of support for Black Lives Matter was judged insufficiently enthusiastic.

These people were becoming afraid of their own colleagues, who might, if they feel they’re not being listened to, leak internal communications to friendly websites, or organize a public protest on Twitter.

 

[anatta]

Perhaps western isn't the right term here......

erdogan is a simple tyrant & his pan-turkic hopes & adventures are coming to fruition..

How long he thinks he could last w/out NATO is anyone's guess, but IMHO it wouldn't be long......

he's been able to hold power. he has a pretty good army - I'm not sure how NATO factors in

 

[Dutch Uncle]

He isn't an agent & as trump fades his views/support will as well.....

I have found his russian/putin defense & rationalizations troubling but subject to change

That's a very polite way of labeling him a spineless American weasel. Frankly, I would have used words that would make a sailor blush.

 

[anatta]

He isn't an agent & as trump fades his views/support will as well.....

I have found his russian/putin defense & rationalizations troubling but subject to change

kindly DESIST from saying what I think or will think.. TY

I thought you would get realpolitik of US/west/Russian - it appears you dont

 

[Bill]

well it's a real thing, people lose their jobs and are shunned in society by the intolerant left.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/07/10/real-problem-with-cancel-culture/
I’ve been hearing from people, center-left as well as center-right, who have moved from astonishment to concern to terror as senior editors were fired for running op-eds written by conservative senators or approving inept headlines; as professors were investigated for offenses such as “reading aloud the words of Martin Luther King”; as a major arts foundation imploded because its statement of support for Black Lives Matter was judged insufficiently enthusiastic.

These people were becoming afraid of their own colleagues, who might, if they feel they’re not being listened to, leak internal communications to friendly websites, or organize a public protest on Twitter.

So your boys & girls don't do that??

 

[Bill]

I'm not sure how NATO factors in

IMHO their membership in NATO has given the turks license to move back into central asia & Russia has not confronted any of it.. Up till the Armenian war..

They have caused problems & attacked Cyprus & Greece-that, IMHO should have been the end or @ least a curtailing of their NATO membership & NATO protections..

You are familiar w/ their play in Libya-what's next??

 

[Saudade]

True: Russians have evolved into a bunch of thugs; the Russian Mafia.

Just because a government calls itself a democracy doesn't mean it is. Example: the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.

When a leader receives over 90% of the vote, do you really think that's a democracy? How about over 75% of the vote?

None of this changes the fact Russia is a hostile enemy.

As I've pointed out before, whether or not a country is a democracy has no real bearing on whether we designate a country as an ally. So, the degree to which Russia is a true democracy isn't relevant. If you want to consider them a "hostile enemy" because of their geopolitical interests, then that makes sense to an extent. I still wouldn't consider them as hostile as China, however.

 

[Bill]

That's a very polite way of labeling him a spineless American weasel. Frankly, I would have used words that would make a sailor blush.

I have spent a lot of time w/ him over the years & we have often agreed & disagreed......

Personally I don't like his opinions especially regarding putin but I am sure he feels the same about my opinions of trump........

 

[Saudade]

The key point, obviously, is that Putin, having been trained in the USSR secret service, loves to plot and interfere with elections in hostile countries so that they elect incompetents like Trump. Faced with an experienced statesman like Mr Biden he will have to do some new plotting. Russia has got weaker, just as has the US, and I think people with any sense will concentrate on China - nastier than even Trump or Putin but a bloody sight more efficient and more threatening.

..except for the fact that Biden has a history with engaging in graft with Chinese business interests....

https://nypost.com/2019/10/10/6-facts-about-hunter-bidens-business-dealings-in-china/

 

[Bill]

kindly DESIST from saying what I think or will think.. TY

I thought you would get realpolitik of US/west/Russian - it appears you dont

I have stated what I disagree w/ & why, countless times......

You can label it anyway that suits you.....

 

[Saudade]

Maoism is a reflection of Chinese Confucianism -loyalty to society and family are more important then indvidualism
China has a Hive Mind -we are too busy being ourselves ( I gotta be me) to consider the common good
Politician dont do that anymore either - the exception was Trump and his "America First"

Russia isn't all western but certainly has much more in common with the west then China does.

Your posts are a breath of fresh air in this age of Russiaphobia

Thanks. It is true that Maoism has some connections with Confucianism, but overall, Mao sought to destroy much of Confucian thought and customs. When the Red Guards attacked the Four Olds, Confucianism was considered an enemy ideology/philosophy. It is true that both Confucianism and Maoism are collectivist, although I would say that Maoism is far more destructive.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

As I've pointed out before, whether or not a country is a democracy has no real bearing on whether we designate a country as an ally. So, the degree to which Russia is a true democracy isn't relevant. If you want to consider them a "hostile enemy" because of their geopolitical interests, then that makes sense to an extent. I still wouldn't consider them as hostile as China, however.

Good you agree the fucking Russians aren't a democracy but disagree that it doesn't matter.

Both China and Russia are hostile to American interests. Anyone who thinks Russia is our friend is an enemy.