Why should we let votes overturn an election? Because that is what an election is?

Legion said:
Pennsylvania’s Election Code requires a county board to determine if a ballot declaration is “sufficient” by making sure it is filled out, dated, and signed.

And the Pennsylvania Supreme Court, claiming "emergency jurisdiction" said that mailed ballots could be counted if they were received by 5 p.m. Nov. 6. That's a 3-day extension which the legislature did not pass ad the the governor did not sign into law.

It also said that ballots without a postmark would "be presumed to have been mailed by Election Day". The ruling also prohibits a challenge to the validity of a ballot based on signature comparisons.

The state law requires ballots to be received by Election Day. But DEMOCRATS pushed for the state court ruling and got it.

Now it's going before the US Supreme Court, if they'll hear the case.
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It is not a 3 day extension. If the legal requirement is the ballot must be postmarked by 8PM on election day, requiring the ballot be received 3 days after it can last be mailed is not a 3 day extension. Does the Post Office magically deliver mail in your area before people have mailed it? It certainly doesn't do so in my part of the country. It takes at least one day from the time mailed to being delivered and more likely it will take 2-3 days.

Perhaps you should familiarize yourself with the law actually passed by the legislature.
https://www.legis.state.pa.us/WU01/LI/LI/US/PDF/1937/0/0320..PDF

State law does NOT require that ballots be received by election day. It requires that they be mailed by 8PM on election day. (Law passed on March 27, 2020.)

State law also says that ballots can be received from overseas military up to 7 days after the election and no legible postmark is required.
 
TOP said:
Do you feel that the country hasn't been given sufficient time and resources to vote in a timely manner? What's with the "trickle in" votes ? But hey.... Let's give everyone until Christmas to get them in...and offer those who've already cast a ballot the opportunity for a redo...many are coming to their senses.....
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The Electoral College meets December 14.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
Michigan was shut down by the court........they wanted to accept ballots 14 days after the election.......

https://www.npr.org/2020/10/17/924930037/court-says-michigan-cannot-count-ballots-received-after-election-day
and I think you are an idiot......which one of us wins?.......yay.......ME!!!!!......
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But you said the ballots could be mailed 14 days after the election. If you bothered to read the story...

A lower court had previously ruled that ballots postmarked by Nov. 2 and received within 14 days of Election Day, the deadline for certifying election results, could be counted.

You must live in a country with a magic mail system like Legion does where ballots are postmarked 12 days before they were sent.

You might want to rescind your victory dance after we see how you can't be correct unless time works differently than it does in the real world.
 
Poor excuse for a human said:
It is not a 3 day extension.
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Yes, it is, hence the motivation for Plaintiffs to petition the court to grant it.

You failed to cite the statute you claimed supports your position, and I think I know why.

Poor excuse for a human said:
State law also says that ballots can be received from overseas military up to 7 days after the election and no legible postmark is required.
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Not the same thing, and you know it.
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
Not one of those states said ballots could be mailed 14 days after the election and still count. .
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PostmodernProphet said:
why can lib'ruls no longer read?.....

But last week, U.S. District Judge William Conley ruled absentee ballots could count as long as they were received by clerks by April 13 — six days after election day — regardless of when they were sent.
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in the primaries, in Wisconsin, federal judge who was overturned......
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Hmmmm......

Reading isn't a problem for me.

Counting past 5 seems to be an issue for you. Do you need to take your shoes and socks off?
 
Pennsylvania

General election changes: Pennsylvania modified its absentee/mail-in voting procedures for the November 3, 2020, general election as follows:

Absentee/mail-in voting: The mail-in ballot receipt deadline for the general election was extended to November 6. Drop boxes will be available to return ballots. The state will provide prepaid return postage for all mail-in and absentee ballots.

https://ballotpedia.org/Changes_to_election_dates,_procedures,_and_administration_in_response_to_the_coronavirus_(COVID-19)_pandemic,_2020#Pennsylvania
 
Pennsylvania Supreme Court extends state's mail ballot deadline

Pennsylvania's Supreme Court extended the due date for mail ballots in the November election.

Mail-in ballots in Pennsylvania have previously been due by the time polls close on Election Day. But the court's order adds a three-day extension...

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/17/pennsylvania-mail-ballot-deadline-extended-417044
 
Flush said:
The Electoral College meets December 14.
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December 8, 2020: Electoral colleges meet before formally voting

Six days before the electoral colleges convene to vote, electoral colleges meet on what is known as the "safe harbor" deadline by which states must certify their results.

December 14, 2020: Electors vote

On the second Monday after the second Wednesday in December, electors convene in all 50 states and the District of Columbia to formally cast their votes for president and vice president. They then send certificates of their vote to their state's chief election official (in most states, this is the secretary of state), the National Archives, and the President of the US Senate.

January 6, 2021 at 1 p.m.: Vote count is finalized and the results are certified

The sitting Vice President, acting as the Senate president, presides over a joint session of Congress to read aloud the certificates cast by the electors representing all 50 states and D.C. to finalize the vote count. If no members of Congress object to any of the certificates in writing, the Senate president officially certifies the selection of the president-elect and vice president-elect.


https://www.businessinsider.com/how-the-electoral-college-works-timeline-2020-8?op=1
 
Walt said:
Now can you show me any law or part of the Constitution that backs up the claim that all the voting must be done by midnight on election day? In the past, they used to not even start counting until the next morning. I say Kavanaugh has made up this law out of his own mind.
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The Constitution did not and does not contain any information about popular votes for president and the founders did not anticipate them. So, there would be no (popular) votes to be counted on election night (other than the House and later the Senate). Electors would simply meet and cast their votes on the designated date.
 
Legion said:
Pennsylvania

General election changes: Pennsylvania modified its absentee/mail-in voting procedures for the November 3, 2020, general election as follows:

Absentee/mail-in voting: The mail-in ballot receipt deadline for the general election was extended to November 6. Drop boxes will be available to return ballots. The state will provide prepaid return postage for all mail-in and absentee ballots.

https://ballotpedia.org/Changes_to_election_dates,_procedures,_and_administration_in_response_to_the_coronavirus_(COVID-19)_pandemic,_2020#Pennsylvania
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Too bad you didn't read the actual law which I posted a link to.

You really shouldn't rely on ballotpedia for deciding what laws Pennsylvania has passed. Courts tend to look at the actual statute as I did.
 
The Pennsylvania DEMOCRAT Party filed a lawsuit that challenged parts of the state’s absentee-ballot system in light of the COVID-19 pandemic. Relying on a provision in the state’s constitution, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court extended the deadline for mail-in ballots until Nov. 6.

Ballots postmarked on or before Election Day, and ballots with no postmark or an unclear postmark, would be counted if received by the new deadline.



https://www.scotusblog.com/2020/10/pennsylvania-republicans-return-to-supreme-court-to-challenge-extended-deadline-for-mail-in-ballots/
 
Court allows 3-day extension for Pennsylvania ballots

The DEMOCRAT majority on the state’s high court had cited warnings that postal service delays could invalidate huge numbers of ballots and surging demand for mail-in ballots during the coronavirus pandemic to invoke the power, used previously by the state’s courts, to extend election deadlines during a "disaster emergency".


https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-donald-trump-campaigns-pennsylvania-elections-62bb4957766f436e27ed7de52921aab3
 
Court allows 3-day extension for Pennsylvania ballot counting


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/supreme-court-allows-3-day-extension-pennsylvania-ballot-counting-n1243949
 
Legion said:
The Pennsylvania DEMOCRAT Party filed a lawsuit that challenged parts of the state’s absentee-ballot system in light of the COVID-19 pandemic. Relying on a provision in the state’s constitution, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court extended the deadline for mail-in ballots until Nov. 6.

Ballots postmarked on or before Election Day, and ballots with no postmark or an unclear postmark, would be counted if received by the new deadline.



https://www.scotusblog.com/2020/10/pennsylvania-republicans-return-to-supreme-court-to-challenge-extended-deadline-for-mail-in-ballots/
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You might want to read the PA Supreme Court ruling..

https://www.scotusblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/1589ec07-66e0-485c-b9be-9f7a03e99643-1.pdf

Hey.. guess what.. They manage to cite the exact part of the law that I told you about.
 
Citing the "ongoing dangers posed by Covid-19", DEMOCRATS have been pressing to extend ballot counting periods and ease mail-in voting by lifting technical requirements.

In a Sept. 17 ruling, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court approved DEMOCRAT Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar’s request to extend the absentee ballot receipt deadline to 5:00 p.m. on Friday, Nov. 6. S

he said such an extension was needed to address "delays due to recent postal service changes" that "could result in ballots not reaching election officials as quickly as they have in the past".

Under the state court decision, ballots postmarked after Election Day would not be counted, but those lacking postmarks would be counted if they arrive in the ensuing three days.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/19/supreme-court-declines-to-block-pennsylvania-mail-in-ballot-extension-430244
 
Poor excuse for a human said:
They manage to cite the exact part of the law that I told you about.
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So you say.

Yet you cannot, apparently, for reasons that an actual quote make abundantly clear:

"The Pennsylvania DEMOCRAT Party and several DEMOCRAT elected officials and congressional candidates, some in their official capacity and/or as private citizens (collectively, “Petitioner”), filed the instant action, initially in the Commonwealth Court, in
the form of a petition for review seeking declaratory and injunctive relief relating primarily to five issues of statutory interpretation involving Act 77 and the Election Code, 25 P.S. [J-96-2020] - 4 §§ 2600-3591.1

This Court exercised Extraordinary Jurisdiction to address these issues and to clarify the law of this Commonwealth in time for the 2020 General Election.


Legislating from the bench, in other words?
 
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