Spendifferous Stimulus

I specifically remember Bush I asking people to buy things on credit to boost the economy.

link up...and just because you use credit does not mean you can't pay for it...you know, like at the end of the month, but do link up, i am interested in exactly what he said
 
did they say to spend money that did not have.....no

next

They said the patriotic thing to do was to go shopping.

They made no referance to how to purchase.

They didnt care how you bought they just wanted you to buy.

Now want to talk about the pallets of hundered dollar bills that were shipped to Iraq and disapeared?

Your team made this mess and wasted tax dollars and the Blood of our bravest so that KBR could make huge profits and electrocute our own people.

Bush worked for the united corporations of Haliburton.
 
link up...and just because you use credit does not mean you can't pay for it...you know, like at the end of the month, but do link up, i am interested in exactly what he said



And by doing so, you're expressing a firm national commitment that's so important, that we will not surrender our freedom to travel, that we will not surrender our freedoms in America, that while you may think you have struck our soul, you haven't touched it, that we are too strong a nation to be carried down by terrorist activity.



When they struck, they wanted to create an atmosphere of fear. And one of the great goals of this nation's war is to restore public confidence in the airline industry, is to tell the traveling public, ``Get on board. Do your business around the country. Fly and enjoy America's great destination spots. Go down to Disney World in Florida, take your families and enjoy life the way we want it to be enjoyed.''


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/nation/specials/attacked/transcripts/bush_092701.html


America stood at a critical momment in history and a president looked at his people and told them what he requested of them...................... "I want you to go to Disneyland" was his answer.
 
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Ask the Fed, the Congress gave their power to. Instead of firing them they just meekly accept a "no" when they ask them where the money went.

Yeah both sides of congress.
The republicans in congress supported that one too.
Congress's masters said to give the money to them so they did.
 
Yeah both sides of congress.
The republicans in congress supported that one too.
Congress's masters said to give the money to them so they did.
LOL. This is like saying the democrats voted for the war. The majority of Rs did not "support that too". If this is an accurate statement then the Democrats are also "responsible for the war" because "they supported it too".
 
Because they were lied to just like the rest of the American people.

Perhaps, but you'd have expected a lot of them, as elected decision makers, to have asked a few more probing questions before believing a man who they despised, no?
 
But the world loved Bush at that momment, they didnt yet truely know him.

And yes they should have asked more questions. They were not used to getting intell that had been cherry picked.
 
But the world loved Bush at that momment, they didnt yet truely know him.

And yes they should have asked more questions. They were not used to getting intell that had been cherry picked.
Total rubbish. It doesn't matter why they shunned their duties, it only matters that they did. The Rs stopped thinking because we had an "R" President, the Ds because it appeared they planned to later just say they were duped.

There were many reasons I was against the war as a conservative, the idiotic way the Congress just meekly accepted the intel (shoot most didn't even go to view the stuff provided by the WH) instead of researching before they sent kids to war was one of them. And the whole, "I didn't know it was a vote for war" excuse? That was the weakest one of the lot.

My point there was to show that saying, "The Rs supported this" when talking about the first "bailout" is like saying the Ds supported the war because some of them voted for it.
 
But the world loved Bush at that momment, they didnt yet truely know him.

And yes they should have asked more questions. They were not used to getting intell that had been cherry picked.

I'm not sure that the world had fallen in love with Bush. We certainly had sympathy with the American people.

And yes, the intelligence was a sham but the wholesale acceptance of those dodgy dossiers, while turning a deaf ear to those who pointed out the blatant intelligence flaws, was a disgrace. Those Democrats, such as the current Secretary of State, who sold their principles for political gain are little better than those belligerent Republicans and no less responsible for the results.
 
A bottom up stimulus? How does that work for a long term solution, or any kind of real solution? Since when did the poor create wealth and employment opportunities for Americans? You know, those kinds of stimulus that are long lasting and productive for the whole? The majority of this spending bill, as it is not a stimulus bill, is not expected to have a long term benefit and no immediate one; i.e. in about a year we can see some improvements that will last about 18 months. The expectation after this, is that we will see a shrinking of our GDP.

The only long lasting solution for our problem is protectionism. Need more demand? Let americans have jobs. It's just this simple.
 
I dont really know Carter, I dont know what they were told.

They did vote to give him a power to use military force after trying all diplomatic avenues.

It was a power that could have worked out fine if the man they had given it to would have followed the perameters of what he signed. He didnt he skipped the deplomacy parts and went straight to the military power in it.

It will never happen again, no president will get the benifit of the doubt ever again.
 
LOL. This is like saying the democrats voted for the war. The majority of Rs did not "support that too". If this is an accurate statement then the Democrats are also "responsible for the war" because "they supported it too".

The dems are also responsible for the war for caving in to the threat of being unamerican and such and supporting the war powers vote for IRAQ.
And many dems are in the pockets of the war machine as well.

But make no mistake Iraq is Bush and the Republicans war. They were the cheerleaders and massaged the intel to sell it.
 
I dont really know Carter, I dont know what they were told.

They did vote to give him a power to use military force after trying all diplomatic avenues.

It was a power that could have worked out fine if the man they had given it to would have followed the perameters of what he signed. He didnt he skipped the deplomacy parts and went straight to the military power in it.

It will never happen again, no president will get the benifit of the doubt ever again.

I wish you were right Desh, but it will happen again, we keep making the same mistakes over and over.
Politicians do not want the responsibility, they would rather hand it off when it comes to war.
Esp a fuzzy war like Nam and Iraq with no clear cut reason to go to war.
 
And maybe a president will get questioned at a time they need to be believed and it will truely be over.
 
Our government sux bigtime. Once we all realize that and start kicking the bums out we will start to be a great country again.
 
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